Per X's question, I will get serious with my 2 cents

[Peter R]

Westman, What you say would theoretically be great in an ideal world. I have a couple questions:
Let me echo X here ... who will implement this? I know you offered your services as a labour of love but seriously, who?

But back up a little. You say kids should register with clubs from as young as five then you go on to describe a system that really is based upon a PUBLIC school system including its PE programme. My question is... is this the purpose of our public school PE programme? It sounds like everyone will be playing football all year. What about other sports? other team sports?

I put it to you that taxpayers' money should NOT be focussed on developing any particular sport, to the extent that your plan would. This is unless I am interpreting this incorrectly. I am talking about Jamaica and a government that is essentially broke.

IMO a PE programme should expose students to a wide variety of sports. The PE programme should not cater to the elites which is what you are focussed on developing. It might come as a surprise to many but NOT every child in school plays or even wants to play football or any other sport. The schools should spend money to develop ALL students in a variety of disciplines , sports just being one.

Your programme I have no problem with, but the vehicle for it I disagree with.

And BTW, it's gonna take more than Moyes and the old Slur Al Licks in the background to keep Manchester... united.

[Muadib]

We have not made the Hex much less the WC in the last 14 years..

Where has it gotten us ?

Mi prefer mek di WC and wallow.. at least wi get a couple Million fi floss wid..

[Assasin]

right now mi a try work with a kid, who maybe have more O Level and A equivalent more than mi and as one. He has won everything in his age group and He is 17 and I know they are planning for him to play at least 2 more years.

[Westman]

Pay me and I would make it a labour of love. It just needs someone with a good business head and who is committed to start at the bottom and f go slowly

[Sir X]

lol...leff dat...mi and Jangle will war when dat bridge come... caaan wait ..lol ....Tappa & Burrel mi a penny yah right now.

Ansa mi boss , if not Burrel fi lead , then whom ?

[Westman]

"time alone, O time will tell..."

[Westman]

My own secret for you friend>>>I am afraid, very afraid that Moyes will mash up my wagon and mek it as unsteady and as rickety as your Liverpool wagon.

[Assasin]

Respect this. A few program has done this but not a whole lot, we are too concern with winning. For example DCup and manning, school are more concern with winning. They will try to keep a kid in school until he or she in 19 to win Dcup, then you have a big Dcup baller but he may have been held back two years. You think we will ever move away from that???

[Sir X]

What ??????????

[Sir X]

Agree with you with everything except your exclusion of Burrell , if not the head to implement all what you have suggested then whom ?

Organization and implementation of your suggestions cant happen by itself ,I dont believe that qualifying for Brazil will stop all what you have suggested , it just might take awhile longer , granted if what you suggest happens ,it might be implemented quicker and thats a might knowing our antiqauted snail pace history.....

Fiyah Tappa ! .....Brazil mi say !!!

[Assasin]

While we are at rebuilding we must not getaway from the basic. One thing I notice is we keep on playing negitive passes and trying to keep the ball, something we are not good at. In our recent history we had only 2 players who could beat a team going down the middle and that is Tappa at his best and Nandi Lowe. Other than that our strenght has been fast players using the wing and who are not afraid to take on players.

Now we reach a stage where we think we should compete, full up the middle and passing sideway and back at a very slow pace. It will not work until we have a different mindset. Offensive players are too afraid on taking it on and making decisions for some reason. Soccer is an expressive game right now we have no expression. We now have enough on field "discipline" players but we have to give players like JJ, Mcleary, and others a changce to lose the ball.

We need good and smart teachers. Use our strenght will intergrating new things. I remember Razor rodduck getting a new trainer and was moving from his unauthodox style but he met one opponent who lick the hell out of him so he change back to his unathordox style and floor the man.

We need to use our strenghts right now. Nothing else will give us a chance.

[Westman]

Let me tell you a secret, friend. If we ever do even a quarter of what I suggested, we will never have to recruit another UB-40 player. They will be lining up to play for us. We will be picking, choosing and refusing. Further, all of CONCAF top flite club team will be in Jamaica recruiting players. So we will have players who are so comfortable playing throughout CONCACAF and leagues way above that we will dominate. CONCACAF qualifying or if not dominate, realistically, we will always be represented.

[Tilla]

I got you and agree. Very good analogy to explain your position too.

[Westman]

My brother, let me be very straight with you. It will take an absolute miracle and a catastrophic collapse by three others for us to make it to Brazil. Let me be even more straight with you. The worse thing for us would be for that miracle to come. It would re-enforce all our bad habits and our failure/unwillingness to develop a good sustaining system.

I leave this with you. A friend of mine, who is a re-knowned international engineer, told me that he got through undergrad by just "trying to get by." He made it to grad school and published many mediocre papers. He went to the workforce as a researcher and jut got by and didn't excelm though he made what many would consider a middle-class living. He felt he was smart and he became frustrated because he couldn't excel with those at the top. He decided to bare his soul to an old NASA veteran. This is what the veteran told him.

Go back to studying, on your own time, the most basic stuff. Read some high school science and math books. Although you know algebra, trig, calculus, physics and chemistry, start reading those books from junior levels like you were never familiar with the subjects. Work every problem and answer every question, bar none, in all those books. Re-read your college science texts cover to cover. He was given the advice over and over for 2 years.

He finally took the advice and it took him five years, a little at a time until he completed it.

Something astounding happened overnight. His understanding became so clear and his performance in research exploded to the point where his research and discoveries have been astonishingly impressive.

He now gives talks to kids and to undergrad students about how important it is to go back to basics, master the basics and to refresh ones-self in the basics.

[Tilla]

Westman, I see your long term plan. That however will not get us to Brazil 2014. With the bunch of talented players we have, what is your suggestion for a short-term solution?