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[Peter R]

Did you read what YOU posted??? But a whe di? It was explained..SMH

[Jangle]

What advantage did ROONEY gain?

[Peter R]

As co-commentator during United's match, you said Rooney wasn't interfering with play for Herrera’s goal, while so many people thought he had. Can you explain why he wasn't interfering with play? Jamie, Edinburgh


I’m speaking from the rules. My interpretation of the rules was, and I’ve spoken to referees about this, that if you’re in front of the ball, in the line of the ball, which he wasn’t, then you’re interfering.

All referees will implement the rule that if there’s a player there who doesn't touch the ball and is not in the line of the ball then it’s a goal.

The rule is wrong, really. The goalkeeper’s natural instinct, he doesn’t know if Rooney is offside, or if it’s going to touch Rooney or not. He has to plant his feet to adjust to that. It takes away from the keeper and he can’t save the shot.

So Rooney is interfering in that. But by the rules, he isn’t. There’s a bit of a grey area.

Brian Clough famously said that if you’re on the pitch you’re interfering.

I’m not the one who makes the rules.



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You bolded the commentators words... how about bolding what the ("rule") Law says...Let me help you:

Offside position
It is not an offence in itself to be in an offside position.
A player is in an offside position if:
• he is nearer to his opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the
second-last opponent
A player is not in an offside position if:
• he is in his own half of the fi eld of play or
• he is level with the second-last opponent or
• he is level with the last two opponents
Offence
A player in an offside position is only penalised if, at the moment the ball
touches or is played by one of his team, he is, in the opinion of the referee,
involved in active play by:
• interfering with play or
• interfering with an opponent or
• gaining an advantage by being in that position
There is no offside offence if a player receives the ball directly from:
• a goal kick
• a throw-in
• a corner kick
Infringements and sanctions
In the event of an offside offence, the referee awards an indirect free kick
to the opposing team to be taken from the place where the infringement
occurred (see Law 13 – Position of free kick).

Peter R: Nowhere does it say anything about being in front of or in line with the ball. I am only pointing this out for all our knowledge. It is ultimately the ref's interpretation. Notwithstanding "interpretation", sometimes they make an error of judgment.

To his credit he correctly interprets the dilemma the goalie faces... and therefore the portion of the law I bolded and magnified,i.e. "gaining an advantage by being in that position " is IMO, what should have been applied.

[Jangle]

As co-commentator during United's match, you said Rooney wasn't interfering with play for Herrera’s goal, while so many people thought he had. Can you explain why he wasn't interfering with play? Jamie, Edinburgh


I’m speaking from the rules. My interpretation of the rules was, and I’ve spoken to referees about this, that if you’re in front of the ball, in the line of the ball, which he wasn’t, then you’re interfering.

All referees will implement the rule that if there’s a player there who doesn't touch the ball and is not in the line of the ball then it’s a goal.

The rule is wrong, really. The goalkeeper’s natural instinct, he doesn’t know if Rooney is offside, or if it’s going to touch Rooney or not. He has to plant his feet to adjust to that. It takes away from the keeper and he can’t save the shot.

So Rooney is interfering in that. But by the rules, he isn’t. There’s a bit of a grey area.

Brian Clough famously said that if you’re on the pitch you’re interfering.

I’m not the one who makes the rules.



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[Rockman]

The referee can be penalized,that does not change the score but it may deter other refs from making such a 'blunder'.Like I said,it wasn't as clear cut..or that would have been explored.
Change 'are' to 'is' thereby making 'recourse' okay,lol.

[Gamma]

Did I say either was a problem? It is an oft employed tactic against arsenal and we just have to learn to prevent that from being effective

[Peter R]

What recourses? just out of curiosity... I didn't know that those existed.

I don't dispute it was judgment/interpretation call (you say borderline).

[Rockman]

Look,there are recourse availabke for terrible calls by referees,it it will not be xplored because at best it is a borderline situation(it could have went any way),so your gripe is it did not go your way,it is not as clear cut as you make it to be.

[Peter R]

If you examine the "tape" you'll observe the goalie move late on the ball, his dive was way out of time. Why? He anticipated Rooney playing the ball and he was defending that option... ergo Rooney interfered. Now, we are talking about offside which is subject to interpretation. IMO, the ref blew that one. And I hope you are not of the a mind like Jangle that my position is based upon hatred for ManU, which I do not harbour, I just "hate" to see you win!

My position really is from an appreciation of the game and how reffing errors can influence an outcome. It works both ways, but still doesn't make it right. There is no reason why there can't be a review a la NHL.

[Lazie]

Look for 'physicality' and long balls from united

Do you complain about physicality from Chelsea and City? No? Since when there is a problem with long ball in football? When Barca dweet Ray Hudson call it "a peach of a pass!" When Cesc does it, it is referred to as "on the money!" ... but when MU dweet it is long ball? Or is it the excuses start compiling already?

[Gamma]

Look for 'physicality' and long balls from united

[Karl]

I think we played a match this season...where, in Jamaica parlance, wi baaall unnuh han unnuh whap wi? Are you having a Shady Pines moment?

[Karl]

Unuh a hypocrite from long time. Fortunately I don't listen to unuh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc1OSa6XOwk

Fast Forward to 2:15 and remind me of your opinion on that goal?

Rooney did not play the ball, made no attempt to play the ball, was not blocking the keeper's view. How you get offside?

So if a ball is played between my legs or under my arm or above my head or by my right knee or by my gut and I am in an OFFSIDE POSITION on each of those occasions it is your view that I am not OFFSIDE as I did not play the ball and made no attempt to play the ball and did not block the keeper?

Is that your position?

[Rockman]

At the end if the day,the advice to the keeper is ignore the opponent deemed offside,he was one of the early protesters so he knew...
How many times have you seen a pass to an offside player and that player removes himself from the play,why on occasions as such,offside is not called?

[Peter R]

Interference can occur by letting the ball run past as Rooney did; he could have played the ball and opted not to. That IS interference. I am not wrong... the ref was!