Soca IS Calypso!

[Baddaz]

yow naminirt... tonks fi de link... mi juss watch de belafonte & nat king cole... enjoyed it... will watch de ress lata... nice...

[Gamma]

well is not for a couple of months but....

[Naminirt]

I’m surprised that none of the so-called music experts on this forum saw it fit to correct an erroneous statement made by another poster yesterday that “calypso is not soca… first thing.”

Calypso, despite the early success of Harry Belafonte, never had a mass following outside of the Caribbean community, and (again, in my opinion) the shift to the more “chart friendly” soca was an effort to make the genre more chart oriented.

Their was a calypso following that started 1920 that peaked with a world wide craze 1950 and early 60. The first calypso recording was done in 1910 . but check out the links


Lord Kitchener - Speaks on harry Belafonte contribution

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8GTbL1Im5o

Kitchener did develop a following in England ...Nat king cole had a song called CALYPSO BLUES http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf5ivCfZ_cw ... however harry belafonte sang over alot of calypso tunes like this ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3vga...eature=related

Finally harry on his influences in documentary with sparrow and lord melody http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWuXc8Y1Rk4

oh and historian is this calypso or mento by lord flea in this movie you decide he was Jamaican btw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkrB4oL3SW0

Minister Louis Farrakhan - Extempo(CALYPSO FREESTYLE)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzxy9yyB94I

[MdmeX]

Deh yacht tek 2 long, plane faster

[Mosiah]

where u going now!? and why yuh don't tek di yacht?

[MdmeX]

calypso is is to reggae as soca is to danceha...MY look at the time. i have a plane to catch...

when yuh jetting off to boss - another vacation

[Gamma]

ok ..but i still have a plane to catch

[Mosiah]

not quite.

calypso is dead, reggae ain't!

also, dancehall nice, soca ain't!

[Gamma]

calypso is is to reggae as soca is to danceha...MY look at the time. i have a plane to catch...

[Mosiah]

me too! calypso was good, but unfortunately now a dead art form. soca is primitive despite being newer!

[Gamma]

that i can agree to. i like calypso....i can't really say i care for soca. i love reggae and likewise am not a big fan of dancehall ... a few songs here and there..

[Hortical]

Frankly speaking, if yuh waan get into it they are cousins, but music is distinctly different. We know yuh all different variations of reggae & dancehall. I would say music performed by Vybz Kartel and its fast riddims is dancehall & music by Luciano is reggae.

[Gamma]

i tend to agree. try this, play pure calypso at carnival and if it is received with the same merriment which soca is received then that is a starting point.

question: was the song "dragon dance" by byron lee and the dragonnaires calypso or soca?

[MdmeX]

despite the origin of the name, isn't it possible that the two forms are now distinctly different? i believe they are! but then, who am i? and i certainly don't care two hoots about primitive music forms!

Spoilt brat

[Lazie]

I understand what you’re saying, Lazie. However, the fact is that, from the very beginning, the name “soca” was applied to that music with the idea that the “so” referred to “soul” and the “ca” referred to “calypso”, hence, “soca” or “soul calypso”.

Okay .... yuh just teach mi something. I didn't see it that way.