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[Karl]

This guy must be one of three Edwards brothers that played for Titchfield High back in 1963-1964.

Emperor's brother. I think you met him in New York at one of our RBSC reunions.

[Karl]

You make a lot of sense...IF the main point of the exercise is to maximize footballing or other sporting resources...

It is not so...schools are mainly for learning...so academic considerations should be paramount

You are telling me that you believe sports is not an integral part of 'the learning'! Look at it this way - 'sports' (each sport?) just another 'subject'!

...It is an important part of 'the learning'!
Granted that thus far we pay lip-service to it.

[Don1]

You make a lot of sense...IF the main point of the exercise is to maximize footballing or other sporting resources...

It is not so...schools are mainly for learning...so academic considerations should be paramount

[Karl]

OK! ...since you have time constraints focus on this...

ISSA is a teacher's organisation its job is improving delivery of quality education - academic, sports and more.

...and use your God given commonsense to explore all that it says!

[Sickko]

Sorry Karl once again I dont have time for your long winded nonense

[Sickko]

Bad analogy because I actually know people who want their kid to go to their school, even if it is Cambridge or Anchovy but I get your point but I have hard Colour's stories for years so I know his points of view

[Don1]

I think you missed his point.

He was questioning whether those who are against student transfers to elite schools for sporting reasons, are also opposed to transfers to elite schools for academic reasons.

How many people you know would be satisfied with thier child going to say, Anchovy, even if they could pull some strings to get him into Cornwall?

The answer to this age old puzzle is in science...mathematics to be exact. Away with the guesswork, unscientific jawboning and emotionalism

What we need is a version of this I posted recently http://www.reggaeboyzsc.com/forum1/s...referrerid=298

Intellectual Ghetto...whither art thou?

[Islandman]

I think you missed his point.

He was questioning whether those who are against student transfers to elite schools for sporting reasons, are also opposed to transfers to elite schools for academic reasons.

How many people you know would be satisfied with thier child going to say, Anchovy, even if they could pull some strings to get him into Cornwall?

[Karl]

How do you create dynasty Karl? By accumulating players that others have groomed and filling hole sin your team each season?

This is schoolboy football we are talking about not club football, there will be ups and downs.

There are way more players involved in the game from young ages now and too many of them are not been groomed academically and they get blys to get thru the system

If you do not believe talent abounds you may have a point. However, talent abounds. -- The kids all have the ability to do well academically as well as at sports. Where they 'shine' at each depends on the environment within which each child's talent is nurtured.

That 1958 STGC team, or the 1964 KC team or the Clarendon College team of the 1970's are not as outstanding as our mind remembers them save within the limited context of Jamaica's schoolboy teams. With similar systems in place as were at those schools and similar teachers/coaches all our schools can turn out such players.

Skill, Deigo, Den-Den...were/are not dunces. They were/are merely products of poor teaching/learning environment.

If we assume that students/athletes switch schools to more from poor teaching/learning situations to better ones --- then the boy or girl who switches school (for academics or sports) just underscores the level of teaching/coaching in the schools.

Sickko - What is needed is not restriction of movement of students but upgrading of the teaching/learning environment such that all the kids have a fair shot improvement in excellent learning environment.

It is stupid to focus on the movement of the kids and not improvement of the surrounding within they can maximize potential. ISSA has got it all wrong. It is concentrating on the holding on/the retention of an inadequate/failing system.

ISSA is a teacher's organisation its job is improving delivery of quality education - academic, sports and more.

[TDowl]

Ok, might be a family member, but you are aware that that school had three brothers playing in 63-64?

[Sickko]

Nope, he went to school in the 1980s

[Sickko]

Ask yourself how the players that would transfer to the 'top schools' got that way, wasn't it some good youth coach that had the goods to get them where they were so they would be attractive to the coaches in the top schools.

Additionally if the coach at the 'top school' was any good he would know what to do to maintain his programme.

[Sickko]

How do you create dynasty Karl? By accumulating players that others have groomed and filling hole sin your team each season?

This is schoolboy football we are talking about not club football, there will be ups and downs.

There are way more players involved in the game from young ages now and too many of them are not been groomed academically and they get blys to get thru the system

[Sickko]

Academic transfers? How many ballers you see running to Campion or Ardene or Munro.

Spare me.

[Sickko]

As usual garbage Karl, like I said yo are too far from the system to even have an opinion.

GC Foster and JFF have developed great coaching courses and a lot of good coaches are coming into the system, same way Colour became a good coach there are others who are coming out as well.

People are making excuses for poaching players from small programmes