Open unnu eyes people

[Mosiah]

By the way, which 17 year old was playing for us on Wednesday?

[Mosiah]

It really has little to do with T&T. It has everything to do with the weak-ass excuses we find when we draw or lose matches we are not suppose to! Is not me bring up dat nonsense excuse about T&T local players being better because our league sucks!

[Assasin]

Sometimes we think we have fi follow the crowd but as you know to be successful at anything you can't follow many a di people who mean good but have no idea. The average Jamaican fan may just watch one national league game a year and about 5 corner league games, They have no idea what a coaching session of any kind is like so you can't follow them. Many inna the JFF nuh better, you need leader and that is what Rene Simoes is there is no doubt about it.

[Me]

No one will notice them when they continually lose to the rux teams with rux players who can't run off the ball like Portmore and HVFC.

Chuss mi!

You know what. MI will leave it alone. Is you and Trinidad, so mi understand.

[Mosiah]

No one will notice them when they continually lose to the rux teams with rux players who can't run off the ball like Portmore and HVFC.

Chuss mi!

[Me]

Of course I must care about that stuff. It means that their club structure will prepare players that are more equipped to play the International game.

Wider cross section of quality based on what? They have just as many quality teams as we do.

[Mosiah]

okay sah. a hear yuh!

[Assasin]

Mo we put too much limitation pon we self, i don't believe for one that the Jamaican fans totally dictate what any local coach do. They have to bear some responsibilty for what they do.

Didn't Downswell play a lot of local players?

[Mosiah]

Yuh not understanding the difference, Sass. If you are unable to understand that CB and Wendell could or could not do certain things, or could talk or not talk about certain things, then we need not continue this conversation.

[Mosiah]

Who cares what they do right when the results are always close? Can you deny that? Dem coulda run offa di ball better till dem blue in di face, at the end of the day, HVFC is the Caribbean Champion. And it was Portmore just the other day, and HVFC before that.

And, another truth, we have a wider cross section of quality teams than they do. For them, it is either Joe Public, W Connecrion or Jabloteh.

But yet dem a draw wid wi!

What?

[Assasin]

Check my posting. Which other poster advocate the playing of games for the Jamaican based players on this site? Which other poster even talk about caribbean tours? Carl Brown have to have balls, that is what I have against him and he sometimes talk bout the local quality is not there, something I have NEVER heard Rene Simoes say. Carl Brown cancel games as he doesn't have the overseas players and is afraid to take on the Jamaican crowd.

Downswell has given many a Jamaican player a chance. My only grouse against him is he is not a defensive coach and didn't seek any help in this area. That could have saved him is job.

I give reasons and not lump everything into one. I will finish this later but one can only judge the work of Simoes in a year time but he is not afraid to take responsiblity and take on all commers, something I have yet to see in any Jamaican coach. After game is always " I am please" or "the players did or didn't" never yet about them.

[Me]

With all due respect, yuh talking crap! I have seen lots of teams from T&T and they have all failed to "wow" me, despite the plethora of Brazilians and other fariners. Even when they do win the Caribbean championships is not as if they blew us apart, so let us cut the myth before some fool believes it! Organization my backfoot. And being soft is not an excuse!

Wow?? Who said anything about WOW. It is obviously at a low level, otherwise they would be blowing us away if it was. At the end of the day, more tactical discipline, better off the ball running, better technique is evident in their league than ours. It may hurt your feelings, but a so it go.

Mi still nuh think we should lose to them, but a so it go.

[Mosiah]

With all due respect, yuh talking crap! I have seen lots of teams from T&T and they have all failed to "wow" me, despite the plethora of Brazilians and other fariners. Even when they do win the Caribbean championships is not as if they blew us apart, so let us cut the myth before some fool believes it! Organization my backfoot. And being soft is not an excuse!

[Mosiah]

Me? Who wanted Keith Kelly on the Gold Cup squad several years ago? I believe strongly in "bringing" our youth. I also like what Simoes is doing, but many of us would have criticised the very same thing were it being done by CB! Okay, perhaps you are not one of them, but I think you know exactly what I am talking about.

We use to play Ricketts for 90 minutes all the time. When Downswell started putting in the second string goalies, wi cuss him. Now where are they, Sean Sawyers and the rest of them, and some of them had better qualities than Ricketts. Sass, many of us are willing to be patient with Simoes and not anyone else. For that reason, I can see us having a farin coach for a very long time, while our local pool remains stagnant.

So, if you are asking me that question because I would be a "local coach", then the answer would be, it depends on how heavy that guillotine over my head is at the time!

In the meantime, I won't let you get away with your excuse making, Sass. Why can other coaches experiment with youngsters, formations etc and win while we will make excuse after excuse, talking nonsense about our lowly league? Don't mek T&T's "professional" league fool yuh. It's a big piece of crap! But they can use those crappy players and earn a draw with our big stars. When we lost to DC people talking about the salary difference. Well, Marlon King can pay the entire salary of the T&T team so why did we draw with those fools?!?

[Assasin]

Mosiah how soon you forget? I told you directly that I would give Bora or any other coach six month to start been a critic. You said that was fair enough. I didn't start start been a critic after six months of vacation. I am making no excuses. I ask you yesterday would you have played these players against Trinidad and you fail to answer.