Well Well Well.......

[Warlord]

Whamp'n to Warfraud bout him a put up women fixtures fo prove point?

Ahhh bwoy....mi notice u ongle show u face when warhead nuh deh deh.

[OJ]

[Assasin]

Karl it all depends on the coach. There are times when you don't really want any games. Most of the pro teams have at least 2 weeks before playing any games. Most teams have started or about to start their pre-season now and in another two weeks or so they will start having "light" games"

As long as the team training and they are working on technical issues then that is an improvement over sitting at home or playing in the bronx.

[Karl]

How can they be prepared if the EPL and MLS players will not be released?

explain that to me.

Sass? Sass? Sass?
Are there...not one, not two, not three...but many, many teams with pofessional players whose teams have pre-season preparations that are playing matches?

The answer is a resounding - YES!
Suh wah duh wi? Wi nuh ave Football Association dat can duh wah nuff nuff adda FA duh? Fi dem suh-mady dem nuh bleed wen den et cut jus lacka fi wi FAman dem?

Cho, Sass man! Mi lose affa yuh!

[Assasin]

The problem with that scenario is that you cannot vividly help potential stars that much if you cannot seem them play against opposition. You cannot truly define or analyse their strengths and weaknesses. The purpose of a live in camp for the most part naturally is for team chemistry and bonding boss. Its not a major benefit when you dont play games.


The problem is we don't have "stars". The players whe have need a lot ow work on their game and knowledge of the game and that is why the camps are important.

[Lionpaw]

Whamp'n to Warfraud bout him a put up women fixtures fo prove point?

[Warlord]

[quote=TheDread;112691]

Neither sass or myself have missed the point. The coach can't work with the overseas players right now because those players have club commitments and he does not have access to them; what do you want the coach to do? Makes perfect sense to work with potential boyz for the future. What about this doesn't make sense to you.

The problem with that scenario is that you cannot vividly help potential stars that much if you cannot seem them play against opposition. You cannot truly define or analyse their strengths and weaknesses. The purpose of a live in camp for the most part naturally is for team chemistry and bonding boss. Its not a major benefit when you dont play games.

As far as our A team prep. is concerned it is way behind that of the other teams in the group, but that is the JFF's fault not the coach who has barely had time with them.

Only thing I agree with you on is this point. The JFF has to take the majority of the blame, but Simoes has to take some responsibility also. He has been there for 6 months and has not addressed not one aspect of our problems.

The good news is that we have the talent to match up with any team in CONCACAF, the bad news is we still have major work to do on team chemistry esp. on the defensive end

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Every team that has qualified for the semifinal round has talent. That isnt enough in football today. Its not about matching up with others. Thats 80-90's football youre describing. Football today is different. Team tactics and execution plays a major part. There has to be structure and organization as well as discipline. Some teams are better and more efficient at it than others and thats the biggest difference.

[Jangle]

Warlord, I don't see nothing wrong with him having the camp right now. As Karl has said many times in the past, we need to have our teams Local or Foreign, in ay state of readiness at all times. Remember back in the 98 campaign Simoes did the same thing when he pulled our local players from their clubs and put them in a camp to help develop their technical abilities. Our local lads still need a lot of work and the opportunity Io get an intef they were trnational game or two against a Venezuela or a strong SA club as you suggest, then that would be excellent, but right now he's keeping busy with the local lads. Remember we also have the other teams to look about too.

[No Mercy]

Not playing any game could be a disguise because nobody

will scout us and then the players might be greedier come game time. We can cout our opponents and make plans to ambush them....

Keep the faith ...sometimes a sleeping lion is more dangerous when awake than one that is roaming already and so hungry.

[TheDread]

I didnt miss the point but i think you have like Sass. What is Simoes#1 priority being TD of the boyz? Was he hired to develop our young players or was he hired to take us to SA2010?

Neither sass or myself have missed the point. The coach can't work with the overseas players right now because those players have club commitments and he does not have access to them; what do you want the coach to do? Makes perfect sense to work with potential boyz for the future. What about this doesn't make sense to you.

As far as our A team prep. is concerned it is way behind that of the other teams in the group, but that is the JFF's fault not the coach who has barely had time with them.

The good news is that we have the talent to match up with any team in CONCACAF, the bad news is we still have major work to do on team chemistry esp. on the defensive end.

[Warlord]

Warlord, you missing the point of the camp. Our local lads still need development and attention, why not bring them together to work with them further? Simoes has given many of the local players things to work on; in the camp he will see their progress. Also, remember, this in not just about 2010, but long term development. Simoes is doing the right thing.

I didnt miss the point but i think you have like Sass. What is Simoes#1 priority being TD of the boyz? Was he hired to develop our young players or was he hired to take us to SA2010?

[TheDread]

Jangle mi rate u as a knowledgeable football head round here... But you and I know that a 2 week camp will not be of major benefit for this team. We couldve at least gotten or tried to get a game wid Venezuela who isnt that far away or better yet we couldve negotiated a game with a strong club team from one of the strong South American leagues. We nuh haffi play Concacaf opponents everytime but at least we're playing 2 games that would help in preparation for next round.

What do you think they do in a live in camp? Study team tactics, formations, players ability, player fitness levels, conditioning? I'll tell you what....I can almost already tell you that Simoes knows who is starting 11 will be gainst Canada come August.

Warlord, you missing the point of the camp. Our local lads still need development and attention, why not bring them together to work with them further? Simoes has given many of the local players things to work on; in the camp he will see their progress. Also, remember, this in not just about 2010, but long term development. Simoes is doing the right thing.

[Warlord]

You want play Trinidad again bass and Guatamala?

Nuh watch nothing cause them can play 20 times fi the year.

Neva said Trinidad or Guatemala...but Venezuela is rite there (geographically) having recently beaten a strong Brazilian side while narrowly losing to Chile. That wouldve been at least one good game we probably couldve secured.

[Warlord]

Yow Warlord, how Simoes see it, playing Trinidad and Gautemala.....again is just a waste of time. They'll be using their local players as well. He figures that having a 2 week training camp may be more beneficial to the team....at this time. At least he is not sitting down lamenting and twiddling his thumbs. At this point, no other team have any real advantage.

Jangle mi rate u as a knowledgeable football head round here... But you and I know that a 2 week camp will not be of major benefit for this team. We couldve at least gotten or tried to get a game wid Venezuela who isnt that far away or better yet we couldve negotiated a game with a strong club team from one of the strong South American leagues. We nuh haffi play Concacaf opponents everytime but at least we're playing 2 games that would help in preparation for next round.

What do you think they do in a live in camp? Study team tactics, formations, players ability, player fitness levels, conditioning? I'll tell you what....I can almost already tell you that Simoes knows who is starting 11 will be gainst Canada come August.

[Warlord]

boss... warlord... all the teams have the same problem that rene simoes dun talk bout... dem cant get de players causen seh nuh more fifa date nuh deh bout before the qualifiers start...

yuh try tuh mek a point bout preparation games... everybody know de importance, even simoes and de jff... but dem dun have dat covered...

weh trinidad and guatalmala have fi duh wid wi... nat a damn ting...

nuh try get roun yuh blunder... just eat some humble pie and come again...

humble pie fi wha? All now u neva get the point I made about our rivals playing games for preparation. That is what is key in football but nuff a unnuh nuh overstand that.

weh dem seh...who cyaar hear gwine feel. memba that!