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plus it was unfortunate as most of his best players were out injured.
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- Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.
- Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.
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1 question: how many black coaches have ever been in charge of a Scottish and how long have they last?Comment
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You are correct. This would be be the way to go. Not sure if he has any FA or UEFA coaching bagdes either......
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Whose post are you responding to, Coach?
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Barnes was a tad unlucky during his tenure with Celtic when his premier striker Henrik Larson suffered a badly broken leg...
He was doing very well until that unfortunate injury to the SwedeComment
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How did Klingsman come into play for Germany? or Van Basten for Netherland.
None of them had the credentials to be the best coach for either teams.
You could reel of a long list of coaches who had experience to beat them but it never happen that way and their teams performed.- Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.
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Yuh seit!Originally posted by Jamaica2099 View Post
...and look at this...yes it is down the road, but perhaps when I said that was then and times have changed I am speaking more on hope that addressing the current reality?
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But they arrived with a clean slate, rather than a record of failure.Originally posted by Assasin View Post
And let's just suppose for a moment that Barnes' early dismissal at Celtic was not entirely his fault (a player's revolt, etc.).
It would still leave a big question mark as to whether he was a competent coach or not, because he has not held a job since then.
Jamaica's current situation in qualifying is very unstable, to say the least. The margins for error are razor thin. So don't you -- at the very least -- want a coach with some kind of record of success and experience??Last edited by Zeppo; September 16, 2008, 01:12 PM."Donovan was excellent. We knew he was a good player, but he really didn't do anything wrong in the whole game and made it difficult for us."
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Those coaching badges don't really mean anything boss. There are numerous people who got top jobs without those badges, and many who have them and are worth nothing, so it is often times a cop out by the powers that be.Comment
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What record of failure? the man record shows him winning more games than he lost with celtic.President of the FACCAC - Fans Againts Clueless Crenston and Cronies (cronies include Mosiah and Sicko)Comment
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Mi nuh understand you guys. How many good coaches you know didn't fail at sometime in their career? See Big Sam had an impressive career at Bolton and what happen at Newcastle? See the former Trini coach failed and restarted his career in Trinidad, today he is in charge of Poland.
Bradley the current US coach failed at Metro Stars and placing second in the SPL is not bad in my books.- Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.
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So then why was he fired?Originally posted by Reggae-Fan View Post
As already stated by Me, the team crashed out of the UEFA Cup in the early rounds and then was humiliated in the Scottish Cup by a tiny lower division team.
Ask any Celtic fan whether they think Barnes was a success there."Donovan was excellent. We knew he was a good player, but he really didn't do anything wrong in the whole game and made it difficult for us."
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Regardless of any social tension, player not wanting a black man or anything else, John Barnes coaching stint at Celtic was a flop. Quite simple.
Unu can make all the excuses you want, he has not shown anything as a coach. Would he be a very good coach for us in the long term? I have no idea.Comment
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Barnsey wasn't a success at Celtic but their were mitigating circumstances he took over when the club was in turmoil, and he had a injuries to key players he could've been given some more time to turn things round.With big clubs like that the expectation is so high that you have to start winning from game 1.Originally posted by Zeppo View PostComment
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So you're saying that he already had an impressive coaching career before getting the Newcastle job?Originally posted by Assasin View Post
That alone differentiates him from Barnes.
Leo Beenhakker already had decades of coaching experience with some of the biggest teams in the world: Real Madrid (where he won 3 league titles), Ajax, Feyenoord, etc.See the former Trini coach failed and restarted his career in Trinidad, today he is in charge of Poland.
And you want to compare that to Jamaica hiring Barnes?!
You conveniently forgot that Bob Bradley had already won an MLS league title with the Chicago Fire, as well as the US Open Cup twice, before being hired to coach the USA.Bradley the current US coach failed at Metro Stars...
Barnes was fired before the season ended. And placing second in a two-team league is nothing to write home about....and placing second in the SPL is not bad in my books."Donovan was excellent. We knew he was a good player, but he really didn't do anything wrong in the whole game and made it difficult for us."
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