'Bibi' is back! Gardner recalled to Boyz set-up fr Carib Cup

[Peter R]

One convention says that if you consider the collective noun "team" as a single entity you use a single verb, i.e. the team IS training at the field... but if you are considering the "team" as individuals you use a plural verb, i.e. the team ARE are having dinner with their families... not my area of expertise (as if I have one LOL)... I usually use a singular verb with collective nouns intuitively... e.g Jamaica is winning the World Cup! ha ha

[Assasin]

very wary of this call. Hope Bibi can prove me wrong.

[Mosiah]

Heh heh!

You are welcome, HL!

(choke!)

[HL]

Thank you very much for your input ReggaePhD, PR, Jangle and Mosiah!(shudder...shudder)

It is so refreshing to have a thread that is constructive.

[Mosiah]

The British way of pluralising the verb for words like "team" always sounds odd to me. But is fi dem language!

[Reggaedoc]

doc, "pleuralizing"?, is that something to do with the lungs? : D

Please excuse my "pleurals" I meant "plurals". Hard to get away from work sometimes.

[Reggaedoc]

doc, "pleuralizing"?, is that something to do with the lungs? : D

Sorry Pete, I mistyped, should be pluralized. Thanks for the correction. I was thinking medicine while discussing language.

[Reggaedoc]

Reggaedoc, what do Americans (HL) know about the English Language!?!

If I have a problem with the sentence it would the rambling length of it and this part - "...as the team finetunes for the defence of their Caribbean title between December 7-16."

I would say, "as the team finetunes for the defence of ITS Caribbean title between December 7-16."

I hear you Mo. Are you talking about "team fine-tunes" vs team fine-tune?. If that is the case then the debate between British English which considers all sport teams as pleural i.e England play Germany tomorrow, or Jamaica play good football, while in American English it is more fluid. This is due to the fact that most sports teams in the US tend to have pleural names i.e the NY Jets, Giants, Cavs, Knicks etc. So it wasn't a problem. However, the debate reopened recently with the prominence of the Miami Heat and the Ok Thunder. Linguists and jounalists were split on the whether the verbs that follow these names should be pleural or singular. I think the general consensus in the US is that teams with singular names should be paired with singular verbs, and those with pleural names should be paired with pleural verbs. This makes more sense, at least to me, than British dogma which says that all teams are pleural. That just doesn't make any sense, because if you say Jamaica play good football, what you are essentially saying is The Jamaica team play good football, well the team is one single unit and the verb should be plays. It is like saying, "the married couple that live next door owe me some money". Well, the couple is a man and wife existing as one unit, and so the verbs should be lives, and owes.
Now, the rambling nature of the sentence is another issue.

[Peter R]

Perfectly normal sentence. The subject, Gardner is singular, the other names are simply spactator nouns, were contained between commas, and the sense of the sentence would not have changed if they were left out. So the sentence is totally correct. Ironically, Jamaicans tend to get tempted in pleuralizing the verb in these instances, which is incorrect.

doc, "pleuralizing"?, is that something to do with the lungs? : D

[Mosiah]

Reggaedoc, what do Americans (HL) know about the English Language!?!

If I have a problem with the sentence it would the rambling length of it and this part - "...as the team finetunes for the defence of their Caribbean title between December 7-16."

I would say, "as the team finetunes for the defence of ITS Caribbean title between December 7-16."

[Reggaedoc]

Yes sentence structure. Singular subject-singular verb.

Much has been said about the editing of Jamaican newspaper.

Also, the writer could have made three sentences from the very long one quoted. It would make for simplicity and ease in reading....

Perfectly normal sentence. The subject, Gardner is singular, the other names are simply spactator nouns, were contained between commas, and the sense of the sentence would not have changed if they were left out. So the sentence is totally correct. Ironically, Jamaicans tend to get tempted in pleuralizing the verb in these instances, which is incorrect.

[Jangle]

The first one was crape so I just wanted to clean it up by using the same words, but I couldn't without Addison "that " in it.

[Peter R]

Using one sentence, it should read:

"As the team fine tunes for the defence of their Caribbean title between December 7-16,at a training session at the JFF Technical Centre,assistant coach Alfredo Montesso told the Jamaica Observer yesterday that Gardner, along with fellow England-based Keammar Daley and the USA-based duo of Ryan Johnson and Omar Cummings, is expected to join the Jamaican camp"

jangle, tek a "e" for effort, dat sentence wuss dan de firs one

[OJ]

yeah you see where i am comming from. We need to look at the transition from u 17 to 20 and 20 to 23 and so on. Example the best player on the U17 in my view was holness.. What happen to him...

[Gamma]

oh we have player development alright, sterling, morrison, hines .... who else?!!