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  • #16
    Originally posted by Zeppo View Post
    Anyone know how is deal with Ajax is going to work if he's still only 16?
    Further - It is normal that any player...matters not how young...can always enter into a contract with any commercial company that is outside of football.

    How the actual contract is structured is for the guardians, the corporate entity and the attorneys.

    btw - Besides speculation on nationality of the young player - i.e. qualification of which could hinge on Dutch passport or other nationality that allows for EU passport or ward of Craig Butler who has legal resident status - Craig may even have job outside of football and FIFA has specific regulation on status of parents as it relates to their kids being allowed to attend Academies or become in other ways affiliated with clubs - and thus his children could have also qualified for same.

    Aside: FIFA and various FAs also refers to "professional contracts" in their regulations and statues which immediately gives the understanding/the acknowledgement/suggests a pre-determination that there are other types of contracts.
    "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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    • #17
      Don't worry. This dolly house is about to come crashing down.



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      • #18
        Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
        Don't worry. This dolly house is about to come crashing down.

        Yuh heva ear bout lisen but verify?
        Mi still nuh sold by Butla!!!
        Mi did si im hat wuk areadi!!!
        "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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        • #19
          Is how much toe yuh have get run ovah suh ?!!

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          • #20
            Yuh see wha happen to di last man whey run ova mi toe?

            Alrite den. There are lessons to be learnt!



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            • #21
              Butler must be a labourite. Is only them make Mosiah carry on so bitter.

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              • #22
                What him have gainst labourites ???

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                • #23
                  Him anti-Brown?

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                  • #24
                    How brown fi be anti-brown?!?!


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                    • #25
                      Do We Believe This Is Possible

                      Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
                      Don't worry. This dolly house is about to come crashing down.

                      We've hard this stuff before or the stretching of reality. I think the boys are good lads and I hope all this is true. But time will tell all and some see all.

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                      • #26
                        How Hitler did gwaan so bad gainst him people?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Karl View Post
                          Further - It is normal that any player...matters not how young...can always enter into a contract with any commercial company that is outside of football.

                          How the actual contract is structured is for the guardians, the corporate entity and the attorneys.

                          btw - Besides speculation on nationality of the young player - i.e. qualification of which could hinge on Dutch passport or other nationality that allows for EU passport or ward of Craig Butler who has legal resident status - Craig may even have job outside of football and FIFA has specific regulation on status of parents as it relates to their kids being allowed to attend Academies or become in other ways affiliated with clubs - and thus his children could have also qualified for same.

                          Aside: FIFA and various FAs also refers to "professional contracts" in their regulations and statues which immediately gives the understanding/the acknowledgement/suggests a pre-determination that there are other types of contracts.
                          It's a tough rule to get around because FIFA are very strict about it, as Bill Moravek has also confirmed here. And not only do the parents have to go there with the kid, but the club is not allowed to get them a job, so they have to work out an employment situation on their own. Furthermore, they are technically not allowed to move there for soccer purposes.

                          It's interesting to me because there are also several American kids in the same situation. Junior Flores signed with Borussia Dortmund but can only go for periodic training stints until he turns 18, when he will be able to then join the club permanently. And Juventus are rumored to be looking to set up the same kind of deal with one of our U-20 defenders.

                          We do have some cases of minors at European clubs however. One is a youngster at Barcelona's youth academy; his parents moved there to allow it to happen but have admitted that it's been a struggle. There is another one at Fiorentina, and no one is really sure yet how he's managed it with no EU passport.

                          So yes, there are ways around the rule, but it's certainly not easy.
                          "Donovan was excellent. We knew he was a good player, but he really didn't do anything wrong in the whole game and made it difficult for us."
                          - Xavi

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Zeppo View Post
                            It's a tough rule to get around because FIFA are very strict about it, as Bill Moravek has also confirmed here. And not only do the parents have to go there with the kid, but the club is not allowed to get them a job, so they have to work out an employment situation on their own. Furthermore, they are technically not allowed to move there for soccer purposes.

                            It's interesting to me because there are also several American kids in the same situation. Junior Flores signed with Borussia Dortmund but can only go for periodic training stints until he turns 18, when he will be able to then join the club permanently. And Juventus are rumored to be looking to set up the same kind of deal with one of our U-20 defenders.

                            We do have some cases of minors at European clubs however. One is a youngster at Barcelona's youth academy; his parents moved there to allow it to happen but have admitted that it's been a struggle. There is another one at Fiorentina, and no one is really sure yet how he's managed it with no EU passport.

                            So yes, there are ways around the rule, but it's certainly not easy.
                            ...and that's a fact!
                            Totally agree.
                            It was the Messi case that got me really engaged.

                            There is at least 1 country where kids (...and their parents/guardians) do not seem to have the same level of difficulty...but it is hell to get the clubs interested. Simple really TALENT ABOUNDS and so does great talent. That makes the clubs pick great local talent...first, second... The outsider to have high percentage chance of getting in must even at that 'great level talent' be exceptional.
                            Last edited by Karl; February 6, 2014, 11:52 PM.
                            "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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                            • #29
                              Here are FIFA's rules on the matter:


                              19 Protection of minors
                              1. International transfers of players are only permitted if the player is over the
                              age of 18.
                              2. The following three exceptions to this rule apply:
                              a) The player’s parents move to the country in which the new club is
                              located for reasons not linked to football.
                              b) The transfer takes place within the territory of the European Union
                              (EU) or European Economic Area (EEA) and the player is aged between
                              16 and 18. In this case, the new club must fulfi l the following minimum
                              obligations:
                              i. It shall provide the player with an adequate football education and/
                              or training in line with the highest national standards.
                              ii. It shall guarantee the player an academic and/or school and/or
                              vocational education and/or training, in addition to his football
                              education and/or training, which will allow the player to pursue
                              a career other than football should he cease playing professional
                              football.
                              iii. It shall make all necessary arrangements to ensure that
                              the player is looked after in the best possible way (optimum
                              living standards with a host family or in club accommodation,
                              appointment of a mentor at the club, etc.).
                              iv. It shall, on registration of such a player, provide the
                              relevant association with proof that it is complying with the
                              aforementioned obligations.
                              c) The player lives no further than 50km from a national border and the
                              club with which the player wishes to be registered in the neighbouring
                              association is also within 50km of that border. The maximum distance
                              between the player’s domicile and the club’s headquarters shall be 100km.
                              In such cases, the player must continue to live at home and the two
                              associations concerned must give their explicit consent.

                              http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affe...sfer2010_e.pdf
                              "Donovan was excellent. We knew he was a good player, but he really didn't do anything wrong in the whole game and made it difficult for us."
                              - Xavi

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                              • #30
                                For anyone who thinks the FIFA rules aren't to be taken seriously regarding the international transfer of minors:

                                Barcelona Rocked by Major FIFA Transfer Ban for Multiple Rule Breaches
                                "Donovan was excellent. We knew he was a good player, but he really didn't do anything wrong in the whole game and made it difficult for us."
                                - Xavi

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