The Schemes adding up...

[Mosiah]

Give it up! These catch phrases are not catching on. Don't you see you are just looking silly?!?!

As for what you are trying to say...I don't even try to understand it. I did get the "hi MO" part, and to that I say, hi X!

Sheesh!

[Sir X]

But USAF , your conclusions are based on a big (if) and i see no stomach by anyone to investigate,they have bigga fish to catch like Jack and Webb,your tone basically mirrors thiers in my opinion,what grounds and for what.

legal gun pun,babylon set the rules,we follow some even cher, hi MO !

[USAF]

PROSECUTE them on what grounds???........And who can PROSECUTE them???

The report states that Germany gave Saudi Arabia weapons in exchange for their support - there was a bribe & collusion, BUT if this "transaction" didn't violate/break international laws, governing arms "deals", OR go through a 3rd party country that violates/breaks their laws, then - How can you PROSECUTE, and Who has the POWER to PROSECUTE???

Based on what is presented, the only thing that I see can happen is FIFA imposing fines & sanctions on Germany & Saudi Arabia.

[Sir X]

Is that how you go about a WC bid ?

[USAF]

But you haven't answered mine.......My questions are in response to your "selective prosecution" claim.

SO -
Who can prosecute Germany for sending weapons to Saudi Arabia???.......And on what grounds would you prosecute them???

[Sir X]

Thanx USAF,you answered all my questions,legal gun pun.

[Karl]

Originally Posted by Karl View Post

Look FIFA is akin to a multi-national entity awash with billions. ...and the managers, like those who run such, pay themselves handsomely within legal guideline.

I don't understand that.

Fair enough!
So let us deconstruct it!

- FIFA is akin to a multi-national entity?
It is, isn't it? It is but let us rewrite/'re-say' with slight modification:
FIFA is a transnational entity = it operates across many borders. It operates/has a presence in many nations!

Agreed?

- (FIFA)...awash with billions?
It has been reported that its various deals and tournaments are hauling in billions. Hell this USA indictment claims the named individuals took unto themselves 150 million dollars. ...and that claim is within the limited scope of the investigation.

You should also consider that it is reported that FIFA has more than 1 BILLION POUNDS sterling in reserves!

So awash with billions is not an overstatement. Right?

- That now brings us to the comparisons with multi-billion corporations/entities. Right?

Any simple "google" of such like companies turn up stats on payments to those in top leadership raking in multi-millions of dollars. The process by which those compensation packages are constructed is, "Boardroom decisions". Matters not how the Boards construct compensation packages committees save they are legally done. Who sits on such committees and methods used to arrive at those committees voted positions is 'policy approved'.

FIFA - Blatter and the boys needed only 'go that route' and $150 million voted selves as percentage of the combined billions and management of "World Football" would or could (if you wish) be par for the course comparing like to like legitimate business.

- That brings us to the final point = a conclusion (if you wish)
Blatter and the boys became arrogant and by-passed the more tedious (...and reasonable arguments can be made that it was not more tedious?) legal 'tried and true' method for 'silly' methods that have them where they are now!!!

Trust that helps!
Christ roll eyes!


*Let me not even make it more difficult for you by delving into how going 'legit' would have allowed Blatter and his boys to reward selves with even more than the 150 million during that same period covered by the indictment.

[USAF]

Who can prosecute Germany for sending weapons to Saudi Arabia???.......And on what grounds would you prosecute them???

[Sir X]

Nothing about the Germany bribe of rocket launchers, selective prosecution mi say, maybe thats how the banking shitstem in germany and saudi arabia works.

[Mosiah]

Look FIFA is akin to a multi-national entity awash with billions. ...and the managers, like those who run such, pay themselves handsomely within legal guideline.

I don't understand that.

[Sir X]

I should have said tax and banking laws,this is a webb that will be fought along those lines.

[Karl]

There you go, Jangle.
Tell im fi wi!

The amount of cash running around within FIFA makes it certain that there shall be corruption. It depends on how it is done legally or illegally.

Just imaging if those the USA have marked as corrupt and whom we willing claim as being so, had passed resolutions, duly minute same, approved within FIFA's and the countries within which they operated legal framework, that is, voting themselves the exact same amount of dollars they took but doing so legally?

They could only be spoken of as being unconscionable. Well within 'names' such as rapacious. ...but no USA or other country could touch them. Look FIFA is akin to a multi-national entity awash with billions. ...and the managers, like those who run such, pay themselves handsomely within legal guideline.

...as I said, arrogance will get the 'thief' most times. These FIFA boys became so full of themselves that they thought they could do anything and get away with it. They were 'sloppy'. The next set will not be so! ...but I would bet that 'the next' after and 'the next'...and the farther this stink falls behind/as the years move further and further away another arrogant bunch with repeat the folly of Blatter, Jack and the rest and 'new Blatters, Jacks', etc. shall rise!

Huge amounts of dough...greedy as men are wont to be shall step in and some will become sloppy!

[Peter R]

Aren't they saying these gentlemen extracted more than the actual deal was worth in order to fatten their pockets?

In the 2006 WC JW's travel agency married the sales of tickets (which were marked up well over face value) to providing other services, all substantially marked up. If you wanted one ticket to one match you couldn't. You had to buy two tickets to three matches and buy all your services through them for two at a cost of about $10,000 US!

The point is football tickets were to be sold unattached, no marrying, but that was just one example of how these people extort money from the average (maybe not so average) football fan. When the Traffics of the world have to pay thos bribes, who ultimaely foots the bill?

[Jangle]

I hope I never see another Traffic Sports banner on the perimeter of our National Stadium field.

Will NIKE suffice? Just Do It!!!

Nike then agreed to pay a Traffic affiliate with a Swiss bank account an additional US$40 million.

[Mosiah]

I thought he was. How can you replace a Jack Warner and then get appointed to all these committees that were to deal with transparency and such and then it turns out...I'm disappointed.

That was a bit naive on my part. Right now, I don't believe anyone in FIFA is fit to run the organisation, even if they themselves did no wrong.

The next FIFA president should come from a different business entirely. Do whatever they have to do to amend the rules for eligibilty but they need to start fresh with someone who may know what offside means.

I hope I never see another Traffic Sports banner on the perimeter of our National Stadium field.