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  • Peter R
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    Originally posted by Jawge View Post
    Okay fair enough; the JFF should develop talent. Say the JFF goes borrow money (to pay a big Int'L youth coaches) develop twelve ballas who were then signed to various clubs at age 18 (won u17 WC) How does the JFF get more money and cover the loan that they borrowed? Who Bayern, Inter pay to? The local clubs or JFF?
    Well, I don't know the answer to that question. I can only speculate. If the JFF is spending money to help develop players who are under 18, they should be required to be affiliated with a (local) club. And there could be some arrangement that the JFF get a cut of any transfer fees paid.

    Here is what they are doing in T&T. The local Pro League teams (RSPL equivalent) are required to have associated age group teams that play in their own competitions. Now, realistically, not all of the clubs are funded enough to carry out this part of their mandate, so what some of them do is have an affiliation with a coaching school that provides them with the U13, U15 and U17 players... I'm not sure to what age group they go, but I know that they have to have those three age groups. Some clubs also approach some high schools and ask them to provide the players for their age group pro league teams... that is a win win for both Pro League club and school, as many school team mates get to play together for an entire year, albeit with some other players thrown into that mix.

    The coaching schools, some might call them a "club", operate year round, but during the high school season, (Sep to end Nov) they take a back-seat to school. Players who are not on their school side still train with their "club".

    If a player makes his school side but is not associated with any coaching school or club, it is usually recommended that he join one during the HS off-season (which is most of the year BTW). Sometime in mid Feb/early March the youth Pro League season starts and it runs until end June (about 18 weeks).

    The Pro League sides are probably stronger than their equivalent high school age group team as there are fewer teams comprised of the best from the high schools. However, like JA, the HS competition will attract hundreds if not thousands of spectators to watch an inferior product, but that is a different topic.

    The thing is this system provides an outlet for footballers after the euphoria of being in the limelight of HS football. They will play literally year round barring vacations etc.

    I don't know if such an infrastructure is in place in JA, but it seems to be working for the Trinis. Just check how many "snowballaz" dem have... few to none!

    Where the JFF or in this case the TTFA (and Pro League clubs) gain, is that they do not have to put out any $$ for the training of the boys as they pay their own way at the coaching schools. I know this as my son is a member of one such club. If you're interested see their website here: http://skhyfc.com/

    There are a couple of Pro League teams who have their own in-house age group teams as they are well funded, but they are the exception...anyway, it is as I said a system of sorts and it is providing the national T&T teams with players at all age groups.

    In this system, all the TTFA has done through the Pro League, is mandate the existence of age group teams playing in competition and really at no cost to them. The clubs/coaching schools are funded mainly by the players themselves.

    Is anything like this in place in JA? That's what I wanted to find out.
    Last edited by Peter R; December 21, 2015, 09:48 AM.

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  • Assasin
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    Some of the partnership with US youth clubs are very good but some of it is just rip off as far as I see it. Some of it is just plainly to sell Jerseys to the teams and to attract kids to the teams.

    Again there are some good ones but not all. Some are straight up money making thing. You would think some of these big teams would at least provide some camps, or invite players to the home club, or at least send their scouts to US teams but in some cases none of that goes on.

    Can't deny that the US soccer is growing bigtime. Here in the ATL it is growing bigtime, nuff teams.

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  • Me
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    The partnerships would be very helpful. Granted the production of most U.S. programs are not really anything to talk about compared to the typical country, but still ahead of us in approach especially since parishes outside of St James, KSA, St Catherine and Clarendon don't do much with the youth at the club level.

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  • Jawge
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    Only time will tell.

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  • USAF
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    The Jamaicans better get in now, because I see more MLS teams focused on scouting & signing young players from South America (especially Argentina, Colombia & Brazil), Central America, and Europe, as well as establishing partnerships in Europe & South America.

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  • Jawge
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    edited from many to some. Ma bad

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  • Jawge
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    See the uber rich a spending. Here some laughed. Ja could be in that too. I know some on here went to church and they misinterpreted the message thinking one should hate money and not be rich. Nutten nuh go so Those that failed to understand the scriptures harped on this. an cuss out those that have any form of money. Ja problems run deep.
    Last edited by Jawge; December 20, 2015, 10:37 PM.

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  • USAF
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    And some also own European soccer teams - Erick Thohir (DC United) owns Inter Milan; Stan Kroenke (Colorado Rapids) owns Arsenal; Vincent Tan (LAFC) owns Cardiff City; Larry Berg and Bennett Rosenthal (LAFC) own Roma; Ruben Emir Gnanalingam (LAFC) owns Queens Park Rangers and Joey Saputo (Montreal Impact) owns Bologna.......There was also talk that the Glazer brothers (Manchester United) had approached Beckham about a partnership and Fenway Sports (Liverpool) wanted to buy into New England Revolution & help with moving the team to Boston.

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  • Jawge
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    Okay fair enough; the JFF should develop talent. Say the JFF goes borrow money (to pay a big Int'L youth coaches) develop twelve ballas who were then signed to various clubs at age 18 (won u17 WC) How does the JFF get more money and cover the loan that they borrowed? Who Bayern, Inter pay to? The local clubs or JFF?

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  • Peter R
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    Ok.

    What is the purpose of the JFF?

    Actually, I just visited the website and got this..http://www.jamaicafootballfederation.../?page_id=5991

    The vision is: By 2022 Jamaica’s Football will have achieved international success and recognition, facilitated by a financially strong and stable Jamaica Football Federation.

    Very wishy washy as who knows first, what is "Jamaica's Football " is. Second, how are "success and recognition" measured?

    The mission is:To facilitate Jamaica’s football success by providing development, regulatory, affiliation and accreditation services to affiliates and entertainment to the general public.

    What development services are being provided? "regulatory, affiliation and accreditation" services as far as I understand is just the bureaucratic paperwork etc. that any well-trained secretary will take care of. Where is tangible evidence of the development part of their mission?

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  • Jawge
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    and the Billionaires are buying up MLS teams.

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  • USAF
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    See Carmelo Anthony has a NASL team in Puerto Rico (Puerto Rico FC), and they start playing next year.

    *Rayo Vallecano (La Liga) also has a NASL team in Oklahoma City (Rayo OKC), which starts play next year.

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  • Jawge
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    Local clubs of course.

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  • Peter R
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    Whose responsibility to pursue such an endeavour would it be? Local clubs? or the JFF?

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  • Jawge
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    Yuh mad? One time mi go mention say Ja fi open ah franchise inna MLs dem laugh mi to scorn. Blaming the capt. and JFF is much easier.

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