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    Shift to Saving May Be Downturn’s Lasting Impact

    CATHERINE RAMPELL New York Times

    Published: May 9, 2009

    The economic downturn is forcing a return to a culture of thrift that many economists say could last well beyond the inevitable recovery.

    J. Emilio Flores for The New York Times
    Kenny Tran of California says he has no regrets about not buying a home when credit was looser.



    This is not because Americans have suddenly become more financially virtuous or have learned the error of their free-spending ways. Instead, these experts say, Americans may have no choice but to continue pinching pennies.

    This shift back to thrift may seem to be a healthy change for a consumer class known for spending more than it earns, but there is a downside: American businesses have become so dependent on consumer spending that any pullback sends ripples through the economy.
    Fearful of job losses and anxious over housing and stock declines, Americans are squirreling away more of their paychecks than they were before the recession. In the last year, the savings rate — the percentage of after-tax income that people do not spend — has risen to above 4 percent, from virtually zero.
    This happens in nearly every recession, and the effect is usually fleeting. Once the economy recovers, Americans revert to more spending and less saving. Over the last 30 years, the savings rate has fluctuated from over 14 percent in the 1970s to negative 2.7 percent in 2005, meaning Americans were spending more than they made.
    This time is expected to be different, because the forces that enabled and even egged on consumers to save less and spend more — easy credit and skyrocketing asset values — could be permanently altered by the financial crisis that spun the economy into recession.
    “I expect that the savings rate will end up at the end of this recession higher than it was going into it,” said Jonathan A. Parker, a finance professor at the Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern University. “It’s hard to see how it wouldn’t.”
    Sustained increases in household saving would cause a difficult period of restructuring for the American economy, which has become increasingly driven by consumer spending. Such spending makes up about 70 percent of the nation’s gross domestic product.
    Add the decline in consumer spending to the planned expiration of government stimulus spending, and a painful readjustment in demand for goods and services could occur, economists say. The effect would be felt here and abroad, as many developing economies also depend on America’s big-spending ways.
    “If Americans cut back, as they almost have to do, what will replace that source of demand?” asked William G. Gale, director of the economic studies program at the Brookings Institution, a liberal-centrist policy research group.
    “The easy answer is the Chinese consumer,” he said, but unlike their more prodigal American counterparts, the Chinese save about a quarter of what they earn. “We may cut back faster than they expand into that space, so there might be a lull.”
    Why might the higher savings rate outlast the recession?
    Social critics like David Blankenhorn, president of the Institute for American Values, hope that introspection about America’s “culture of consumption” will awaken Americans to the virtues of thrift, just as the Great Depression reset American financial values for a generation.
    But many economists believe consumers will change their habits for more pragmatic reasons.
    Consumers have lost a huge chunk of their net worth, in the housing bust and the stock market, and to resuscitate their retirement accounts or children’s college funds they will have to channel more of their paychecks toward saving — unless those asset markets soar again.
    Forms of easy credit that were once prevalent, like mortgages with no down payments, also may not return, either because the government regulates them out of existence or because banks dare not venture back into such risky lending. That means if Americans want to buy a house, they will have to save more and borrow less.
    Whether for reasons moral or otherwise, consumers are already thinking a bit differently about their long-term budgets. A recent Pew Research Center survey found that many more Americans had begun regarding products like microwave ovens as luxuries rather than necessities.
    Such attitudes suggest that retailers will have to change their marketing strategies, said J. Walker Smith, executive vice chairman of the Futures Company, a marketing and research consultancy.
    “People are realizing they can’t accumulate everything they want anymore, and they’ll have to prioritize more,” he said. “That may be hard for a lot of brands — figuring out not only how to get considered by consumers, but put at the top of their list.”
    Consumers planning big purchases are also anticipating that their borrowing options will remain limited.
    Last year, Aryn Kennedy and her husband, Brian Ewing, who live in Los Angeles, spent “every dollar” they earned on debt repayment and living expenses. When local housing prices began to fall, Mr. Ewing toyed with the idea of a low-down-payment mortgage.
    “By the time we really started looking at buying, I knew from reading blogs that most loans like that were not really available anymore, since lenders didn’t want to take risks,” said Ms. Kennedy, who said she was suspicious of such offers anyhow.
    Since then, through “windfalls” like a salary increase for Mr. Ewing, and by cutting expenses for clothing, entertainment and other items, Ms. Kennedy says the couple has begun saving about 25 percent of their take-home pay in anticipation of making a traditional down payment of 20 percent on a house.
    Even after they buy, Ms. Kennedy said, the couple plans to keep saving 25 percent of their pay. A recent Gallup poll found that most Americans who have recently increased their savings believe their budget adjustments represent a “new, normal pattern for years ahead.”
    Despite the immediate jolt to the economy, more personal saving would be a positive step in the long run, analysts say. More saving leads to more investment, which promotes economic growth, which leads to better living standards.
    At the family level, social critics, economists and even many consumers seem to agree that a forced financial conservatism may be for the better.
    Kenny Tran of Santa Ana, Calif., for example, said he had been nervous about saving enough to buy his first house — he and his fiancé have been setting aside about $800 a month for the last year and a half — but he has no regrets about not buying a home when credit was looser and saving was less of a priority.
    “A couple years ago it would have been easier for us to get a loan,” despite the fact that the couple’s combined income was lower, Mr. Tran said. “But if we would have gotten a loan, and a house, a couple years ago, we’d probably have ended up in foreclosure now.”
    Last edited by Don1; May 10, 2009, 12:28 AM.
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    Re: It can't be! Americans living within their means?

    Note: The title for the first post in this thread is unfair.

    The fact is that most Jamaicans live “within their means” primarily because they have no choice! If Jamaica was a wealthy country, with the majority of its population enjoying a high standard of living, then I can assure you that Jamaicans would have been living an affluent life just as the average American was doing!

    Think I’m wrong in making this comparison between the USA and Jamaica (and the Caribbean)? Just check the way of life of other Caribbean people like Caymanians, Trinidadians and Barbadians.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Historian View Post
      Note: The title for the first post in this thread is unfair.

      The fact is that most Jamaicans live “within their means” primarily because they have no choice! If Jamaica was a wealthy country, with the majority of its population enjoying a high standard of living, then I can assure you that Jamaicans would have been living an affluent life just as the average American was doing!

      Think I’m wrong in making this comparison between the USA and Jamaica (and the Caribbean)? Just check the way of life of other Caribbean people like Caymanians, Trinidadians and Barbadians.
      Where oh where kind Historian, do you see a comparison in my post to Jamaica?

      If you see such a comparison subsumed somewhere, somehow in my headline.... you are quite mistaken.
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      • #4
        No Comparison

        Originally posted by Don1 View Post
        Where oh where kind Historian, do you see a comparison in my post to Jamaica?

        If you see such a comparison subsumed somewhere, somehow in my headline.... you are quite mistaken.
        I must admit that there was no explicit comparison with Jamaica in your subject line. I made the comment I did for the simple reason that many Jamaicans (and from your topics on this forum I suspect that you’re a Jamaican) tend to make negative comments on the USA and other so-called First World countries based on their Jamaican experiences.

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        • #5
          Jamaicans are NOT living within their means.

          You know how many a them fly come a Miami come buy carpet and luxury items?

          You think buying a case a guiness and "nuff gal" thing a living within one's mean?
          • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Historian View Post
            I must admit that there was no explicit comparison with Jamaica in your subject line. I made the comment I did for the simple reason that many Jamaicans (and from your topics on this forum I suspect that you’re a Jamaican) tend to make negative comments on the USA and other so-called First World countries based on their Jamaican experiences.
            Your suspicion that I am Jamaican is correct.

            However your thesis that I am critical solely based on my "Jamaican experiences" is not.

            My worldview (and any crticism of the US or any other country) is shaped... yes by my formative years in Jamaica... but also by living in foreign lands and extensive study of subject matters which interest me.

            If my fellow Jamaicans have this approach... I'm certainly in accord with them... and without any apology whatsoever.
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            • #7
              Good Point, But....

              Originally posted by Assasin View Post
              Jamaicans are NOT living within their means.

              You know how many a them fly come a Miami come buy carpet and luxury items? You think buying a case a guiness and "nuff gal" thing a living within one's mean?
              You have made a very interesting, accurate observation here, Assasin. However, the fact remains that a large number of Jamaicans are forced to live within their means simply because they have no choice. There are many, for example, who cannot and will not buy that case of Guiness.

              But I get your point, and living above their/our means is seemingly intrinsic to us Jamaicans, just as it seemingly is to every other nationality living in this region called the Americas. In fact, I can remember as a youth back in the days of socialist Jamaica (the 1970s) a family living next door to us who were fervently socialist. This couple was engaged in activism on a day-to-day basis. Nevertheless, during the mid to late 1970s their entire living room and master bedroom were outfitted with furniture that they personally bought in Florida. We are talking here about socialists in an era where suffering had seemingly become the way of life for ordinary Jamaicans.

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