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  • MdmeX
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    Originally posted by Baddaz View Post
    it appears that they want to use the taxpayers money to supplement their personal lifestyle desires....
    I believe you've hit the nail on the head!

    Where is Balla - would love to hear his take on this!!

    Why we don't just sell the land, sea, sun & the sky space to the highest bidder

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  • Mosiah
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    The government currently has one or two govt. vehicles on the road that run on 10% ethanol fuel right now. I believe they are hoping to get that % up to 15% and more in the near future. But these are Ford Escapes or some such non-lux vehicle. What are the chances of seeing our MPs in those!

    The way this govt operates they will have us all driving hybrids while they peer at us thru their tinted Prado or Pajero gas-guzzlers.

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  • Baddaz
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    mosiah... has anyone in jamaica even consider hybrid vehicles... or has the government incenting the people to consider using hybirds... too many gas guzzlers in jamaica...

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  • Baddaz
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    there are hybrid suv available... just dont understand our leaders... it appears that they want to use the taxpayers money to supplement their personal lifestyle desires... i cannot see why the government would need 5-series BMWs... surely there are other less costly and equally effective alternatives...

    this is just b.s.

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  • Baddaz
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    if the government is to buy new vehicles, they should all be hybrids... i believe all government vehicles should be hybrids... government should be leading the conservation efforts to scale back on fuel consumption...

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  • MdmeX
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    Originally posted by Karl View Post
    Mosiah: As I have said on numerous occasions to Lazie - The cars are not the problems. ...bout mek fus bout car??? Unnnuh waaan som b@#$%t@#$$h lick!
    The cars are now part of the problem. We cannot afford the gas bill, where will the money come from to maintain them. Parts for volvos, BMW etc. are very very expensive. Or maybe the intent is that when them need servicing & maintenance they'll just park them.

    What happen the people in the Govt. & the civil service nuh have any common sense, or are they such a wanton, wicked set that they have no feeling whatsoever fi the downtrodden & are eager to SQUANDER everything and anything that comes their way.

    Jeezas man, how much more can the people bear. We want a REVOLUTION!!

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  • Muadib
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    Originally posted by Karl View Post
    For my eyes - NEVER!

    You see the years when Seaga was in charge a few fat cats fed well...and, the rest of us sucked salt! ...and, for many there was not a hope of ever even being recognised as someone worth-while. It was during those Seaga years I remember the phrase being embedded in my consciousness - "Who does he/she think she is!" ...in reference to persons of "humble means". Some up to this day cannot get into their consciousness that we are all equal under God's eyes.

    I remember in College of hearing of 'kids', now 'high on the hog of having somehow 'bettered' themselves than their parents', who could not face "the shame" of inviting those same parents...those who brought them into this world, to their graduation. Hiding their parents, of whom they should have been proud...hiding away from their parents as the "who does he/she think he/she is" ate away at their hearts. Lawd...di pain of it all!

    Even today you see some of those offsprings of the Seaga era walking around with noses pointed to the sky. Perhaps, some of the PNP leaders learned the Seaga era lessons well...and now can't help themselves on looking down their noses at the masses? Come to think of it...that may also be a contributor to some of our problems. How else can you explain the lousy leadership provided by our MPs if it is not that they consider the masses less than human and therefore not worthy of the 'goods' that humans must receive from their leaders??? ...not worthy of that which they receive??? How else???
    Thank you for this post. I love it when someone saves me the trouble and convicts themselves with their testimony. Wow.

    I knew I could get it out of you.

    Now can we PLEASE assign your critical thinking ability on this topic to the realm of emotional/personal vagries and not pretend that you actually have a rational viewpoint on how to move Jamaica forward.

    We have no room for 'Die Hards' with some perceived axe to grind, we need thinking people.. we need to find a way to remove you and the rest of the 'We always believe.." people to some far away place so that we can move the country forward.. or FORWARD ! as you like to put it.

    Stap waste people time pretending to be an objective thinker while all the time your slip showing.

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  • Lazie
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    Mosiah, Assasin and MAudib, unuh nuh know that trying to make a point with Komrade Karl is like walking pon wata? As far as Karl is concerned, anything him religious leaders duh, is alright with him. Obviously unuh have time fi waste.

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  • Mosiah
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    I don't get it. How come you are agreeing to this? What about SUVs for competent MPs?!?!

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  • Mosiah
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    Thanks for the non-answer.

    Many people believe Phillips is doing a good job. So, how does one really make the distinction? I say the distinction does not have to be made. None of them should be driving a govt. assigned SUV!

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  • Assasin
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    Mo there is nothing Socialist about make good government decisions. In Britain and other well advance countries you don't see low class public officals driving the kind of SUV we drive whether they are performing or not.

    Karl it is only common sense that tell us that buying Toyota Corrolla would save a bungle and that waiting for Phinn and Portia to find oil is not the way to go. We need thinking ministers. Believe it or not Peter Phillips is one of the better ministers. Can you tell me the amount of money that Dr. Paulwell have wasted?

    You fight saying no waste on Sandals Whitehouse and now these cars are not waste so then can you tell me one way you would cut a budget? It don't take a genius to see with our resources why the tax paying people of St.Mary and St.Ann have to buy SUV for these workers why their number priority from government(security) is none existence as police have to bum ride to crime scenes. It makes no sense whatsoever.

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  • Karl
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    Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
    Karl, for me, it's all about gas-guzzling cars that the country cannot afford! Jamaica has no bizniz having huge gas-guzzling vehicles, and the ministers must set the example. These are the kinds of tough decisions we are going to have to make if we want to move forward. Call it socialist if you will.


    Have to agree here!

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  • Karl
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    Originally posted by Maudib View Post
    Karl, what periods in Jamaicas History has it shown signs of growth and serious leadership ?

    Yuh waan guh heaven but yuh nuh waan dead...

    Hopefully others will finally make the choice that you cannot.
    For my eyes - NEVER!

    You see the years when Seaga was in charge a few fat cats fed well...and, the rest of us sucked salt! ...and, for many there was not a hope of ever even being recognised as someone worth-while. It was during those Seaga years I remember the phrase being embedded in my consciousness - "Who does he/she think she is!" ...in reference to persons of "humble means". Some up to this day cannot get into their consciousness that we are all equal under God's eyes.

    I remember in College of hearing of 'kids', now 'high on the hog of having somehow 'bettered' themselves than their parents', who could not face "the shame" of inviting those same parents...those who brought them into this world, to their graduation. Hiding their parents, of whom they should have been proud...hiding away from their parents as the "who does he/she think he/she is" ate away at their hearts. Lawd...di pain of it all!

    Even today you see some of those offsprings of the Seaga era walking around with noses pointed to the sky. Perhaps, some of the PNP leaders learned the Seaga era lessons well...and now can't help themselves on looking down their noses at the masses? Come to think of it...that may also be a contributor to some of our problems. How else can you explain the lousy leadership provided by our MPs if it is not that they consider the masses less than human and therefore not worthy of the 'goods' that humans must receive from their leaders??? ...not worthy of that which they receive??? How else???
    Last edited by Karl; April 17, 2007, 12:35 AM.

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  • Muadib
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    Originally posted by Karl View Post
    Seeee wah mi a seh? Gi dem SUV an - I would not be surprised if it was on some joy ride in Mobay. Matters not if they had SUVs. It is not the car...it is the persons!

    Tenk yuh, sah...for making my point with that exclamation point!
    mek mi fi Jamaica!
    Karl, what periods in Jamaicas History has it shown signs of growth and serious leadership ?

    Yuh waan guh heaven but yuh nuh waan dead...

    Hopefully others will finally make the choice that you cannot.

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  • Muadib
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    Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
    Karl, for me, it's all about gas-guzzling cars that the country cannot afford! Jamaica has no bizniz having huge gas-guzzling vehicles, and the ministers must set the example. These are the kinds of tough decisions we are going to have to make if we want to move forward. Call it socialist if you will.

    How do you tell which minister is performing? As far as I am concerned NO MINISTER IS PERFORMING WHILE WE ARE IN THIS RUT. In fact, no minister will have performed in our lifetime. They all need to be driving Corollas - sound cars with great mileage!

    Karl, how many police cars could we buy if we exercised some good common sense and less arrogance? Last week there was a robbery at my St. Ann chalet. When I called the police, no one could go to the house 4 miles away because the only vehicle they had was in Montego Bay. (I would not be surprised if it was on some joy ride in Mobay, but that's for another post.)

    If Barbabos doesn't have such an SUV policy what is Jamaica doing with one?
    I could post the nation building resume of Edward Seaga..again.. but I have been told not to sow corn upon certain ground and not to cast pearls in certain areas.. it is only a pity that incompetent leadership has cast a shadow on the significant achievements of dedicated and serious people..

    As Wignal seh.. maybe certain people deserved the chance that less worthy were given.. and given.. and given..

    Check di UWI Math department situation again if unnuh nuh believe seh is not di people dat have proven record get di wuk inna dis country.. until unnuh fix dat problem and get serious.. we will continue to move in circles.. ruling in hell..

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