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  • Willi
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    Agreed

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  • Karl
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    Originally posted by Willi View Post
    "But I cannot respond to something said by way of the radio or the papers. Mr. Golding has not said to me ‘Portia, I want to talk to you', if Mr. Golding wants to speak to me I will speak with him any time. I will do anything in the interest of Jamaica," she said.

    I already said I am encouraged by the new tone. I dont care about election or otherwise. Portia needs to act right...IN HER OWN INTEREST.
    Couldn't agree with you more!
    ...but, saying Bruce has not called as of yet...is correct, if she has not received his outstretched hand on his "PM" letterhead!

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  • Willi
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    "But I cannot respond to something said by way of the radio or the papers. Mr. Golding has not said to me ‘Portia, I want to talk to you', if Mr. Golding wants to speak to me I will speak with him any time. I will do anything in the interest of Jamaica," she said.

    I already said I am encouraged by the new tone. I dont care about election or otherwise. Portia needs to act right...IN HER OWN INTEREST.

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  • Karl
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    Originally posted by Willi View Post
    Be that as it may...the woman bare faced in saying that Bruce did not invite her to talk when he did so directly to her at the inauguration. You want a link to the video?? What you think she wasnt ther?
    Clearly she was stating she got no official invite. No bareface in what she said...it is the fact, that Bruce was posturing for the media.


    As to the confrontation argument, I am not saying that she must acquisce to everything...not at all, we need a strong opposition. However, it is pointless to be ranting and raging and a priori rule out any engagement! This is why I am glad that she seems to be coming around.

    BTW, the people originally saying that Portia cant manage the wuk were not in the JLP...
    Anyone can view a speech as 'rant and rave'...certainly if she was considered to have 'ranted and raved' it could be said, Bruce's response at a public function was if not 'ranting and raving' could be cionsidered to have 'boxed dun di 'oman'?

    Let us now fairly...di election dun...deal with the substance of what the leader Bruce does and the leader Portia does. Agreed?

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  • Mosiah
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    source considered. source rejected.

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  • Muadib
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    No.. it is a matter of vocabulary and your usage is faulty.

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  • Mosiah
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    matter of opinion, and yours does not matter.

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  • Muadib
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    Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
    Okay. So what should she do next?

    Willi, the ball is still in Bruce's court. Stop being cultist!
    Stop abusing the word. Same ting yuh duh with 'Liar'


    cult (kŭlt) Pronunciation Key
    n.

    A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.
    The followers of such a religion or sect.
    Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing.
    The object of such devotion.

    'Shadow Ministry of Faith Based initiatives..'

    Heh, heh.

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  • Mosiah
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    Okay. So what should she do next?

    Willi, the ball is still in Bruce's court. Stop being cultist!

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  • Willi
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    Be that as it may...the woman bare faced in saying that Bruce did not invite her to talk when he did so directly to her at the inauguration. You want a link to the video?? What you think she wasnt ther?

    As to the confrontation argument, I am not saying that she must acquisce to everything...not at all, we need a strong opposition. However, it is pointless to be ranting and raging and a priori rule out any engagement! This is why I am glad that she seems to be coming around.

    BTW, the people originally saying that Portia cant manage the wuk were not in the JLP...

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  • Karl
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    Originally posted by Willi View Post
    is it trivial that she kept up a confrontational mood?

    Why does she get a free pass to warp reality? She gets to deny what the whole world saw? I have a problem with that.
    Of necessity the opposition party - matters not where in the world - is always on collision course with the ruling party. Anytime there is a convergence of views and acceptance it is beneficial to the opposition party to reinforce going down that path.

    Bruce and the JLP were confrontational, strident, downright worked extremely hard to denigrate, throw - fish on each and every move of the ruling PNP and its leader.

    ...and, they have succeeded to a certain degree. Just look at the many nonsensical arguments on the "PNP didi nothing for 18 years"..."Portia is incapable of managing the affairs of the country"...

    The arguments fly in the face of reason...yet, supposedly persons who should know better presently - I use "presently" advisedly as I am confident there will be many re-visits to Portia's performance as the head of various Ministries and her rule as PNP will be sensibly judged in the context of the short 18 months she was PM - believe it.

    If the JLP had to agree with a PNP position - it was always with a caveat - e.g. 'Yes...but, they should have been doing more and we shall do better'...or, 'what took them so long' - with its subtle or not so subtle undertone of 'ongle ediat dem cudden see a dat fi duh'...or, whatever.

    The crys of why Portia is so confrontational is hollow! The overtures Bruce is now touting is as "Greeks with olive branch"...patently false!

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  • Willi
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    is it trivial that she kept up a confrontational mood?

    Why does she get a free pass to warp reality? She gets to deny what the whole world saw? I have a problem with that.

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  • Mosiah
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    Come now, willi. Talk about dwelling on the trivia.

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  • Willi
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    2 weeks late though.

    Better late than never, so I am encouraged.

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  • Lazie
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    Originally posted by Karl View Post

    What more do you want...a bow down and kiss the ground?
    That would be appropriate seeing that Bruce setting the table for good governance. She rules for 18 months and corruption was much worse than in PJ's 14 years.

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