Grace blew the gene and geography theory out of the water

[Sir X]

On the Air last night, where as Francis argued Jamaicans are built to run the marathons in the most eloquent way , its an event for the Kenyans are gued Francis ,Grace argued we dont specialise in that ,like the Kenyans dont specialise in the sprints ,Francis stuck to his built type theory and grace blew him out of water by saying the Mexicans ,Occasional european, Italains give the Kenyans good competition, I would like to point out the North africans too, Morocoans & Algerians.

Jamaicans specialise in the sprints , anything over 400m and we struggle.BTW did anyone notice that Wariner a white american competes well against the Gene theory in the 400m.

Its down to economics ! geography comes into play based on the economic conditions to get out of hardship,Genes come into play based on the same conditions , economic exploitation to get out of a shitstem ,none is superior , except the economic drive and oppourtunity.

British born Adam gemili of Morocoan/Iranian descent 18 years old clocked 10.08 and is now being hyped as the next british sensation.Where is the west african gene ? Is it the economic oppourtunity that has unerathed this talent , BTW he plays as a defender for Football League One team Dagenham & Redbridge Academy.


Fish out of water, lets move to the yam , bananna and cock bottom theory.

[Reggaedoc]

The gene theory is just BS. Prof. Errol Morris is one of the major proponents of this sprinting gene crap.

[Assasin]

me a tell them long time but certain man will support "research" to support their stats or they think that we are inherited royalty.

[Peter R]

...but it is true that some people do have "fast twitch" muscles more than others... isn't it?

[Assasin]

But not eveybody with that muscle can run fast. West African decents are runnig fast but the west Africans themselves can't?

It has to be more than that. What make people run fast? Remember Bolt was not suppose to run so fast over the 100 metre.

How is it some sprinters are from families that has no other runners(not even at the local level) in that family?

[Me]

Systems (training methods, number of athletes, interest in sport) of course have to do with it also. FYI, West Africans have run fast (below 9.9) also.

[Sir X]

Peter !

Does having that muscle twitch gene mean you are born to run faster ? again the eastern german women gave the yanks with the muscle twich gene a run for their money when the playing field was evenly juiced in the 70s & 80s.


Jermy wariner currently gives the muscle twicth genes a run for their money , so did cathy freeman ( australain aborgene ) in her hey day.

[Willi]

Ah Bruce James that not Franno. Franno huh have time fi argue with on air peeps. And is Ethiopia, not kenya den chat bout.

Grace ah chat foolishness.

The chance of getting a marathon champ is Jam is near zilch.

[Willi]

Its not just muscle type, its joint geometry as well.

It takes a certain combination and yuh find that more among certain populations.

It does not mean exclusively, but if you play the odds....

[Willi]

Since Grace luv run her mouth, mek she huh go find and train champion marathoners in Jamaica?

put up or....

[Don1]

There are several factors which determine why a GROUP consistently displays superior performance in sprinting... as opposed to random individuals who compete in sprints

Extreme desire to succeed & community support of that goal
Dedication to training
World class training from coaches
Early talent identification & development
Competitive environment ...aka High School Champs
Genetic predisposition for speed

No one factor is sufficient on its own for success in sprinting for a GROUP performing over time in the sport (decades) but all are necessary. One can attempt a ranking of the factors but the order would be subjective...most agree that desire and environmental factors like coaching & competition are paramount.....even scientists with the speed gene theory agree that's the case.

An individual whose background does not meet all the above criteria but yet still achieves success at sprinting merely reflects a case of an exception proving the rule.

[Willi]

Tenk U sah.

And if I am going to do a commercial club in Jamaica, will i as a rational business person invest in a Marathon camp???

[Sir X]

Agreed 100% and it isnt reserved for that twitch fiber gene in my opinion, Wariner, Freeman and the juiced eastern europeans proved this.

[Muadib]

but yuh have time...

Once dem nuh accept is Nature plus Nurture combination yuh move right along..

[Don1]

Someone wants a marathon camp for Jamaicans? That would be a waste of resources...the results would be poor

A middle distance camp 800m or even 1500m would be better.

Better still is to funnel some short sprinters of whom we have a surfeit at the moment...into the 400m and try to catch Babylon inna dat in say 5 years...dem way ahead