We Neva learn our lesson, keep banging the wall!

[Twan]

To be truthful, I never support fuller as he has not produced in a while and I supported Tappa on the king thing, but that is just the t of the iceberg, the real deal is the entire selection process and lack of continuity in play. It was starting to settle down with nosworthy, mariappa, Taylor, Austin, Morrison, Johnson, shelton, but with maps and Rudy out we made the wrong moves.

hey, lets keep the cow bawling and hand wringing, till Tuesday night after the game, as of NOW, we have to work with what we have.

wi nuh ded yet, there is still a ray of hope, lets focus on that until the fat lady ah Stadium sing.....Tuesday. leave the post mortem till then...

USA !! USA !! wi seh

[Assasin]

you are been very biased here. How can you talk about Hue? The fact is, if anything Hue should have been called long ago. Hue had nothing to do with any of the goals. The first goal is Jason Morrison fault. with or without Hue Morrison would have been on the field. Hue is the only one to take a good corner and he made a few penetrative passes, something we have been missing. The second goal is a goal fault firstly and bad defensive marking. Hue wasn't even on the field at the time.

In my opinion if we have Hue, Demar, Dane and Mattocks on the field we will open up defenses. At the begining of the second half with Dane, Hue and Demar going forward, that is when most of our chances were created.

[Tilla]

Fuller does not have a record of producing for Jamaica period. You therefore cannot call him on his past performance and he is certainly not tearing up the Championship in which he is now playing.

[Mosiah]

How does hue get game over senior who has been in the squad and hue just arrive and jump straight in...

Erm...because he is twice as good as Senior?

Wi have enuff fast and foolish on the team. Hue gave us slow and smart! And it would have produced goals if he wasn't feeding more fast and foolish on the front line.

[Stonigut]

To be truthful, I never support fuller as he has not produced in a while and I supported Tappa on the king thing, but that is just the t of the iceberg, the real deal is the entire selection process and lack of continuity in play. It was starting to settle down with nosworthy, mariappa, Taylor, Austin, Morrison, Johnson, shelton, but with maps and Rudy out we made the wrong moves.

[Stonigut]

We have been seeing that trend throughout, look at the us game outside of free kicks we never really threatened the goal.

When you really think about it, any team needs continuity, we totally lack continuity of team selection, team style of playing, who gets selected, how can people get selected when they do not produce, how do you get selected when you can't even play a full season in the rspl, how does the MVP of the rspl never even gets looked at and guys that are way down the line get selected. We are bouncing around with selection like we have no clue what we are doing, level the damn playing field so man and man can understand what them need fI do fI play.

How does hue get game over senior who has been in the squad and hue just arrive and jump straight in, if you don't believe in senior drop him and get somebody else, where is khari Stephenson, why is Watson getting game over khari when khari scoring goals and assists for the best team in mls and Watson can't score or assist nothing all season, I think watson is a great talent but he is not producing and that is the bottom line.

Well the thing ketch up with us, great talent but no system, no process no plan, mi done!

[Twan]

In a way you are right Stony. Arrogance on the part of the damn coach. His team selection was poor. If fit, Fuller, and King should never have been left out. They would have given the Guats nightmares. they love to run at you, and have he skills to take the game to them and create chances. I saw the entire game. We had 60% of the possesssions in the 1st half and never took a single threatening shot. That was insane.

dont know which game you watched to make such a comment about shots on goal....

[Reggaedoc]

In a way you are right Stony. Arrogance on the part of the damn coach. His team selection was poor. If fit, Fuller, and King should never have been left out. They would have given the Guats nightmares. they love to run at you, and have he skills to take the game to them and create chances. I saw the entire game. We had 60% of the possesssions in the 1st half and never took a single threatening shot. That was insane.

[Stonigut]

2002, 2006, 2010,2014

Can't really remember 2006 must have been pretty bad, but remember being upset by 2002.

2010 we lose out on goal difference pre hex tough! And hear we are again about to lose out on the hex, one loss and we are out!! But we knew the odds, we knew the risks, everybody bawling fI dis stupid creative midfielder business and here we are again, typically guat cannot move the ball in our half, due to size and speed of defense, what do we do, we bring in the opposite of speed and size and man that having been playing a lot recently, man that are not battle proven over a season even in the rspl. We bring them in for the critical game which we all said was a must win, we bring in hue in midfield who is a known defensive liability in the mids, we are playing guat, in guat in a match they know they must win and they have the best chance to win at home versus in us, well they got the job done and we with our arrogance did the opposite.

Anyway let me not be a total downer, even though I am a realist at the end of the day.

Truth is a&b nearly beat us, we were lucky to draw that match, I can't see us beating them three and even if we do, I can't see the USA versus guat match being anything but a draw the risk level is too high for both sides to sustain a loss at this point, with the outside chance of Ja beating a&b. however crazier things have happened in life, maybe somebody can get Dempsey upset.

It truly grieves me in no uncertain manner what this means and again it is our own arrogance that is doing us in. When I saw the squad I was very unhappy, I already wrote the article about the creative midfielder myth with every hope that there is no way hue or Kelly would be chosen just because some people think they are the best ting since jerk seasoning, they are both good players but they are not national players, they have never proven themselves in the heat of the battle, and with Austin and mariappa injured my heart was in my mouth and so we bring in shavar in central defense, shavar has not been getting consistent playing time for a while, we put Taylor in mids and hue in mids, in a game like this on the road we must dominate our half.

Our half is our fort and real defense starts with forwards shutting down space so mids can pressure and squeeze movement into centre of the field, with two players that should not have been in mids that spells trouble immediately. One that is out of position Taylor and the other hue which is a defensive liability, there is no way guat should have scored two goals on a Jamaican defense and that right there is our undoing, we gave them life with the squad picked and the players that were in the game.

When you go to your most critical battle, Everyman must know and understand his role to the T, why play hue who has not played in a game of this level in a while insuch a critical role. It is insanity! It is unfair to him, even though I know he wanted the chance and who would turn down the chance if it was given, it should not have been given.


Let it be known from henceforth that no Jamaican team will make any World Cup final unless all four of our mids are battle hardened, aggressive, fast, known ball hogs and interceptors by nature, look at all your great mids that produce goals and assists in significant quantities, it is skill, it is speed but most of all it is just hard, dutty, sweaty take no prisoners work. As Ali McNab used to say 99% perspiration and one % inspiration that is the formula or something close to that. There is no magic bullet! I wish that was the end of the discussion but truth is we will still be arguing for this same mythical Lenny Hyde type till the end of time.

I am beyond myself, my Brazil plans are dead, I have no interest if Jamaica is not there, only a miracle can help now as we have clearly taken this out of our hands and put it in gods hands, you know what dem say, god helps those that help themselves, look like we out of luck there!