We Neva learn our lesson, keep banging the wall!

[Assasin]

I wouldn't count on that. When he was bought by his club to be a playmaker. They have a hard time finding out his niche because of the inconsistency that Tilla mention. He is currently coming off the bench and not a regular starter.

Don't be surprise if Houston decide to go somewhere else as he not producing much for an attacking mid. Get me to the point where I wonder if our coaches watch MLS games to see who is in form.

[TheDread]

Fuller does not have a record of producing for Jamaica period. You therefore cannot call him on his past performance and he is certainly not tearing up the Championship in which he is now playing.

Stop chat uckrey! Fuller has not produced many goals. but he has produced many assist and goal scoring opportunities. An analyst, from over so, a few years back did a study and found that Fuller was involved in over 65 % of the goals Jamaica scored when he was on the field. He might not score, but he surely creates and makes JA a better team when on the field. As far as not tearing up the championship he is just now approaching full fitness and has done a credible job in the games played. He has started 3 games and scored 2 goals. This current JA squad has no strikers in the same class with Fuller and King. Tappa has put in place a nice system, but we systematically excluded some of our best players and are now paying the price. How in the world you ignore Noseworthy for 3 rasta cl..aat years?

The JFF are a bunch of comedians who started drinking their own wine.

[Tilla]

Mosiah, do you agree with me that Lovel Palmer played like crap? I mean, for a STETHS man, I have never been more disappointed in a player on the national team. . . well, apart from when Ricketts was going on with his foolinish.

[Mosiah]

Hey, Watson has been able to hold down an MLS position, something Hue couldn't do.

So who is better and more worthy of a place on our team?

We should have used that criterion for 1998.

[Mosiah]

This was a game we could have and should have won. Pity we didn't because it has given fodder to the anti-Hue gang.

sigh

[Mosiah]

... so telling us Hue can give more says you believe he will be an asset at levels above this round of World Cup qualifiers! I say you do not know what you are talking about!!!

I only have the advantage of seeing him play every week. That counts for nothing.

sigh

[Tilla]

Karl said:

You really read in Stoni's post a blame of Hue?
I certainly did not see that. ...but then Stoni may wish to show where I am at fault!

btw - I thought Stoni's posts (more than one) was about TEAM --- TEAM selection!

Here is what Stoni said:

what did hue do to make the team. He comes from nowhere to start the game jumping over other guys that were in the squad, we know what he brings, but we know what he does not bring, in a game such as this we needed no holes in the defensive unit with Austin out and maps out.

If that is not anti-Hue, I do not know what is.

If his comments were about TEAM and TEAM Selection, then he has gone about it wrong in singling out Hue.

[Karl]

You really read in Stoni's post a blame of Hue?
I certainly did not see that. ...but then Stoni may wish to show where I am at fault!

btw - I thought Stoni's posts (more than one) was about TEAM --- TEAM selection!

[Tilla]

Busy as a bee and running around like a headless chicken while not achieving much. That is all good and well in Stoni's book. Watson can be a good player, but until he makes up for his inconsistencies he will remain an mediocre player with a few good moments.

For me, give me the player who will find himself in good positions, reads the game well and make telling plays when he needs to do so. I see that in Hue.

Stoni, go back to the source of the problem. Look at Taylor who played for Austin and you will see that is where your criticism should be.

[Assasin]

is that agreeing with the man Mosiah? Busy Bee who have no cutting edge will not accomplish much. We have too many. We need players to make the difference in special areas. Dane is a busy bee and should have started over Watson. We saw what his end product was like.

Watson is too indecisive at the moment and turn over too many balls. Stoni nuh count it again?

[Karl]

You have been a consistent and strident detractor of Maestro, so respect for taking back some of your criticism.

However, to say that Hue "has nothing more to give" is just not true, but can be excused because you do not have the pleasure of seeing him do his thing for HV each week. Friday's performance by Hue was certainly one of the slowest I have seen from him in recent times, and that has to do with both decision-making and "over ground". It was clear to me that this was a result of his unfamiliarity with his teammates.

So, don't put yourself again into a position where I can say, I told you so! Hue can do much better than what you saw on Friday. Let's hope he brings it on Tuesday.

Let me make my point as forcefully as possible -

Mosiah: We have had discussions on "what is good football", "playing well" and "what to look for when seeking players to represent"...I have never been able to make you understand most of what makes a "good footballer" and what makes for "playing well". It does not surprise me that you think playing at the "crawl pace" (both pace at which decision making takes place and execution occurs) of our NPL is worthy of putting on a comparable level of these 2nd preliminary rounds of CONCACAF World Cup.

I also know...not just believe...based on your utterances and your present comments on Hue's recent play...that you are underlining that you have not improved skill on judging players one bit. Hue did not have an outstanding match. He was just a wee bit better than the best we had on display in this match. Let me repeat: whereas many of those our players who were on display vs Guatemala are 'miles' faster than Hue and can with improved use of commonsense and technical skills perform at a higher level, Hue who was operating at optimum pace on thinking and movement and his technical skills, has nowhere else to go...nothing more to give. He cannot think faster! He cannot run faster! He cannot execute faster!

Again - He has nowhere to go! He has nothing more to give!

It is for our players - the players around him - to optimize on his strengths against the faster (than the Guatemala players) Antigua and Barbuda players so as to afford him more time to 'think' and execute plays. When we move to the higher levels e.g. The Hex, and the even higher levels, World Cup finals...not even our players can make for him the time he needs to operate!!! Impossible! Again: He cannot run faster...so very often he will not even get the ball! He cannot think faster and thus when he does get the ball he will be under pressure that will cause - giving ball to opponents...lost directly, poor passes, bad decisions!!! Even passing directly to his feet will not compensate even for 2% of the time he touches the ball!!! That is a losing situation!!!! A waste! A playing with 1 player less on offense! He is already a liability on defense - One less player on defense!!! ... so telling us Hue can give more says you believe he will be an asset at levels above this round of World Cup qualifiers! I say you do not know what you are talking about!!!

[Tilla]

OK, so leave out Hue, what would have been your combination to make the team more effective?

Hue comes out of nowhere and jumps over other guys who were in the squad.

This was the coach's decision to put in the man as he saw that our creative game was both myopic and anemic. Hue is the most experienced creative player we have. I want to remind you that Austin does not play as a creative mid, he is a hard running defensive mid. His position was taken by Jermaine Taylor and Taylor did not live up to Austin's game - but you blame Hue. I cannot understand your bias against the player who came in and did what he was asked to do. If Shelton was a better header, we could have taken the lead off Hue's expertly taken corner.

Speed is overrated sometimes. Of course it can be an asset if you possess it and can put it to use, but if you are lacking and you can make it up with other facets of the game, then more power to the player. Again, Hue did what he was asked to do, leave him alone and find someone else to blame.

[Mosiah]

Stoni, Hue did not come out of retirement! He has been playing consistently well for HV. And he performed admirably in some friendlies for Jamaica. On those performances alone...!!!!!!

I don't see where you have blamed our defensive unit for not filling those holes. Our defenders were woeful!!! But, again, it is easier to blame Hue.

[Stonigut]

Listen what is more objective that being consistent and straightforward in how you choose a team, what did hue do to make the team. He comes from nowhere to start the game jumping over other guys that were in the squad, we know what he brings, but we know what he does not bring, in a game such as this we needed no holes in the defensive unit with Austin out and maps out. I just saw that this is where they were potentially going with this creative midfielder business, it just goes against the type of team and the type of mids we need and the type of defensive scheme we needed to bring to this level of the game, it truly is not about him as a person.

[Tilla]

Man, Stoni is really going off on this Hue thing. He wants to put all the blame on the loss squarely at the feel of Hue. I think this is so wrong.
Stony, please you are showing a chink in your armor of objectivity we have come to expect from you.

swear if the management cannot understand the brevity of where they are and the stakes it is no wonder we lost in the way we did. To bring in a man that can't even star in the rspl league as the top playmaker, I just don't understand what is happening and what they are thinking, it makes me sick to think we are not making the hex when we had the whole thing in our hands

I remember when Tappa himself was struggling to hold down a game in some 4th Division English leagues and he was always penciled in before any other player on the starting team for the Boyz. He came home and went to Seba and was not tearing up the place with his ball mastery, but then again, he was always getting game in the national team.

The management have called on Hue out of desperation to turn things around. It is no fault of the player why he is just being called to the squad and he has consistently performed over the years as the best midfielder in the NPL. Team selection maladroit has kept Hue out and the coach only needs him when he finds his back against the wall.