Luis Suarez in new cheat storm

[Mosiah]

That goes without saying! I know some NPL ballas who could mek Suarez look like him nah try. Well, almost! So yes, nothing wrong in holding him to a higher standard.

Yuh think Zidane is the first balla to buck another player? The player's profile matters and the competition.

[Paul Marin]

You have scumbags and you have serial scumbags.

There are nuff of those "serial scumbags" out there as well. What makes Suarez polarizing is that he is one of the best footballers in the world. If he were shyte, no one would care, e.g. Joey Barton.

[Mosiah]

You have scumbags and you have serial scumbags.

[Paul Marin]

I know nothing about any red card. I did not comment on that. All I am looking at is the acting job by Suarez.

I don't need to say or see anymore other than to reiterate that he is a scumbag of the highest order.

Okay. I thought you were in the Tilla and Gamma camp claiming that Suarez's play acting was the impetus for the ref showing red. Initially, we all (myself included) thought it was issued to the fellow who fouled Suarez. But, as Dsweet pointed out, it was to the player who threw the ball at Suarez and tried to pull him off the floor. Gamma and Tilla (and now that you say not you - I will take you at your word) immediately tied the showing of the red to Suarez's play acting. When facts showed differently, none of them had the fair mindedness to admit they were wrong. I'm sorry to have included you in that crowd.

As far as Suarez being a scumbag, I can only say that if I were to hang my opinions of footballers out in front of my love for the game, I probably wouldn't watch the game at all. There are so many who have let the game down, Suarez (in biting Ivanovich and diving), Rivaldo (that horrific fake injury in WC2002), Thierry Henry and Maradonna (for those blatant handballs), Rio Ferdinand (for failing to show up for his drugs test), Cantona (for kicking a fan), Roy Keane (for his horrific foul on Haland that ended the fellow's career), Nigel de Jong (for planting him foot in Xabi Alonso's chest in WC2010)...I could go on...but suffice to say, Suarez ain't alone in the pantheon of football "scumbaggery".

[Peter R]

If we are going to use the criterion of playacting to define "scumbag of the highest order", (and please DO NOT take this to mean I defend Suarez or anyone else who playacts- as of now NO ONE has commented on the job Campbell the Costa Rican did SMH), then all I have to say is there are plenty scumbags in football.

And yes, I know about the Ghana incident which IMO is foundation upon which the reasons to hate Suarez are built, including biting and "racially abusing" so I'll spare you reminding me.

The REAL problem is that the stewards of the game allow the flopping around on the turf to continue with impunity.

[Mosiah]

I know nothing about any red card. I did not comment on that. All I am looking at is the acting job by Suarez.

I don't need to say or see anymore other than to reiterate that he is a scumbag of the highest order.

[Mosiah]

Not all Liverpool fans are incapable of spotting a reprobate when they see one.

[Gamma]

is not what him do mi, i don't know the guy but my opinion is that he is a reprobate and he proves it time and agian. i have ALWAYS said and i continue to say that as a footballer player he is up there with the best around. he is of a seriously flawed character and is not me one seh suh!

and it is preciseby because my brain IS working (i.e. i am not a liverpool fan) why i able to see that!

[Peter R]

"Righteous" -yes, indignant? - not in the least

[Paul Marin]

now, THIS, is would have been funny if it wans't so ironic!

not claiming to take ANY moral high road bredrin, that ship sail past me long time ......

Gamma...is what Suarez do you so mek u brain stop work?

[Paul Marin]

you, who love call people eediat ... if true and would mean that the ref did not fall for it. players should have to temper thier reaction to the reprobate

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[Gamma]

you, who love call people eediat ... if true and would mean that the ref did not fall for it. players should have to temper thier reaction to the reprobate

[Gamma]

now, THIS, is would have been funny if it wans't so ironic!

not claiming to take ANY moral high road bredrin, that ship sail past me long time ......

[Paul Marin]

And what are you? yuh quick fi call people name and label, and while I may be hypocritical in sayiing this as I just called the refs "idiots" I take refuge in that I refer to a general collective, not people I interact with as in on this forum, no matter how much I disagree with their position...SMH

Peter, as you said, anti-Suarez sentiment runs DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP even to the point of extreme unfairness. They cannot think clearly even when presented with irrefutable evidence. The mere fact that you changed positions in your opinion of the referee shows sound thinking and fairness and of course, was based on your reassessment of the situation when presented with new information.

It is sad that Mo, Tilla and Gamma are unable to admit they were wrong (in calling for Suarez's head on the red card), despite the clarification that the red had NOTHING TO DO WITH SUAREZ. Their inability to see past him is what is disturbing. It is a psychological barrier that holds people back, not unlike the southern racists who refused to accept laws allowing a black man to drink from a water fountain...they just can't see past their bias and bigotry. Very sad, as these are otherwise clear thinking individuals.

[Paul Marin]

Too funny. Your brother as it turns out has been doing that for a while where we're you then to take a moral high road? Spare me your righteous indignation!

Wooooooooooooooooieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!! !!!!! This is hilarious. Even when unu get ketch unu STILL CYAN come clean...but hey...I'm the hypercrite :ridiculous: Unu bitta fi tru..."moral high road..." something you would know bout more than me I see...LOL!!! LOL!!! Unu is a set a jokers fi real...