Tilla do you see.....

[Dunny]

Couldn't help it - Had to return to your post. It is a classic!

But Karl no true?

[Dunny]

I guess I was preaching the other day about celebrating the near misses. Of course Arsenal should celebrate their near misses. They have done well if you ask me considering the way they approach business. Wenger for sure would have been more successful, had he decided that spending big to acquire the best talent was the way to go. I just give his stick because I can. I am sure it is the same with Jose as well.

Wenger for sure would have been more successful, had he decided that spending big to acquire the best talent was the way to go

Tilla Wenger couldn't spend what him don't have, lets get that straight. If you spend what you don't have you end up like Portsmouth or Leeds united. Now there is money do you think he will start next season without spending some? Chelsea and the rest should be very afraid, my Gunners are back and ready to win some silverware.

[Karl]

The fans couldn't wait to get rid of Rafa who finished third won a trophy and had the team playing some decent football.
Herald the Special one, played some dire football, won no trophies spent 110 million and transformed the third best team in England to the third best team in England

Couldn't help it - Had to return to your post. It is a classic!

[Tilla]

I guess I was preaching the other day about celebrating the near misses. Of course Arsenal should celebrate their near misses. They have done well if you ask me considering the way they approach business. Wenger for sure would have been more successful, had he decided that spending big to acquire the best talent was the way to go. I just give his stick because I can. I am sure it is the same with Jose as well.

[Karl]

Sorry fi mash yuh corn Karl. Wenger is a good coach if you ask me. I have a lo of respect for the man. I however would like to see him winning and breaking the 9 year drought. Oh, that could soon happen with the FA Cup.

Tenk yuh, sah!
I hope you do not have same type mouth (goat mout) as X?

...and this also has to be included in Wenger's achievements -

• 2006 Champions League final - Barcelona - 2-1 loss

•2007 League Cup final - Chelsea - 2-1 loss

•2011 - League Cup final - Birmingham City - 2-1 loss

[Tilla]

OK!
...but please do not attempt to belittle my GUNNERS' teacher, Arsene Wenger, or making statements on or about him that defy facts. Wenger is an above average coach.

Sorry fi mash yuh corn Karl. Wenger is a good coach if you ask me. I have a lo of respect for the man. I however would like to see him winning and breaking the 9 year drought. Oh, that could soon happen with the FA Cup.

[Karl]

And I ask Dunny to show me where the 110 million were spent. And who said you cannot spend to establish a team and come up empty handed at the beginning? Is that failure, especially when you were in it all down to the wire?

Also, the whole reasoning that Mourinho is a failure because he has not won any silverware in the last two seasons with different clubs is just ludicrous! It is argued as if he was not doing this between two different clubs in different leagues in different countries.

OK!
...but please do not attempt to belittle my GUNNERS' teacher, Arsene Wenger, or making statements on or about him that defy facts. Wenger is an above average coach.

[Karl]

Over the last 9 years Arsene Wenger got average results?

Hey Dunny, a good manager is not just one who is able to work with limited resources to get average results as you have seen from Wegner over the last 9 years.

Facts are stubborn!

I am sure you do not mean Arsenal's Arsene Wenger as any computation on his results over the last 9 years shows work of an above average coach producing above average results.

Just for the record:
The EPL - Let's guess that an average of 5 new EPL managers enter the league each year after each year's commencement.

Let's also remember that there are 20 EPL managers at work on the first day of each EPL season.

Using the facts above, Wenger in each of the 9 seasons referenced by Tilla is 1 out of 25 managers.

During those 9 years Wenger has consistently performed above 20 other managers. How then falling within that 'above 20 managers' group = 'average performance'?

btw - Within that 9 year period -
2005/06 - 4th

2006/07 - 4th

2007-2008 - 3rd

2008/09 - 4th

2009/2010 - 4th

2010/11 - 4th

2011/2012 - 3rd

2012/2013 - 4th

2013/14 - 4th

In each season Wenger's performance was better that 20 of the 25 managers.

In Europe's major competition, The Champions League, Wenger has consistently gotten his team qualified for the competition. He sits within the rare breed of managers that consistently qualify for this elite league.

It should be noted that within those 9 years he has gotten his TEAM to advance out of the first round and indeed has had his TEAM play in the finals an even rarer accomplishment for managers.

In the minor competitions he has reached finals.

Tilla, my friend, I would 'love' to see your math?

[Peter R]

And you got spanked by by Crystal Palace and Sunderland this half of the season... dat mean dem bettan dan unuh this half???

Below is what counts my friend! but keep trying...
Liverpool 84
Chelsea 82

[Tilla]

Mi nuh understand you. You call me out and ask my opinion, then you begging me to cool.

Your point about coaches needing a loaded checkbook to be successful, I have to agree. I do not think this is a Josey problem alone though, because if you ask me, Alex Ferguson, Pep Gardola, Mancini,, Pellgrini and even Wegner suffer from the same disease. The thing is, Jose has shown that is you allow him to build the team he wants, he will get you results.

With that, I am done.

[Dunny]

And I ask Dunny to show me where the 110 million were spent. And who said you cannot spend to establish a team and come up empty handed at the beginning? Is that failure, especially when you were in it all down to the wire?

Also, the whole reasoning that Mourinho is a failure because he has not won any silverware in the last two seasons with different clubs is just ludicrous! It is argued as if he was not doing this between two different clubs in different leagues in different countries.

Tilla just cool no man, don't tek it so serious boss. I am only being mischievous, I rate Jose but don't like his behaviour. I also think he is overrated. He is not as great as people think he is, because without a loaded cheque book he would look ordinary like the rest.

[Tilla]

And I ask Dunny to show me where the 110 million were spent. And who said you cannot spend to establish a team and come up empty handed at the beginning? Is that failure, especially when you were in it all down to the wire?

Also, the whole reasoning that Mourinho is a failure because he has not won any silverware in the last two seasons with different clubs is just ludicrous! It is argued as if he was not doing this between two different clubs in different leagues in different countries.

[Jangle]

Hey Tilla, their are money bag clubs cueing up to hire Wenger, if he was to leave Arsenal and work at a club where money was no object he would win unlimited trophies and not just winning but winning with style.

Are you sure about that?

[Dunny]

Hey Dunny, a good manager is not just one who is able to work with limited resources to get average results as you have seen from Wegner over the last 9 years. Good manager recognizes what is needed and is prepared to spend what the club can afford to reach its objectives.

Wenger may not make it at other clubs as while the clubs may place an emphasis on silverware, he wants to make Champions League and save money by not acquiring top quality players. Arsenal is the right club for him as he would not last anywhere else without winning something.

Hey Tilla, their are money bag clubs cueing up to hire Wenger, if he was to leave Arsenal and work at a club where money was no object he would win unlimited trophies and not just winning but winning with style.

[Jangle]

If you want to bring luck into it then I am gonna say to you if Arsenal had Ramsey, Ozil and Walcott fit all season we would've won the league.

Dunny, you keep burying your head in the sand. The problem with your club is the coach. He is past his expiration date.