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  • Dunny
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    Originally posted by Tilla View Post
    Cho, Ramsey aint all that and as for Ozill, he is yet to prove that he is cut out to be a success in the EPL. Walcott needs to be playing with a more ambitious club, as Arsenal at best is becoming a feeder club.

    I have actually seen games in which Chelsea sould have won, had it not been for the influence of referees with bad decisions. Players also have themselves to blame too against the lesser oppositions. Maybe you can also fault the manager for not putting enough preparation into some games that see the team losing to teams at the bottom of the table. I cannot explain how a team is ready for the big teams, but fall short against a Villa and Sunderland etc. Those teams are supposed to get a smacking similar to the 6-0 that was placed on Arsenal which is a much better team than those bottom feeders.

    Anyway, my point is this. The team missed the boat this season. I would hope that Abromavich have some patience as this was a near miss and could easily have been a success for Chelsea. I think City's success is deserving, although with the squad at their disposal, they should not have had to struggle as they did to lock up the championship. It is left to be seen if Liverpool can repeat what they did next season. Their Achilles heel was they only knew one way to play and it was all out attack. If they can overwhelm you with their attack, then you were toast. Contain their attack and they would be left without answers as how to go forward.

    Anyway, it should be interesting come next season.
    Over the 38 games your team wasn't good enough, every team can point to where they made mistakes I can also point out games where Chelsea were lucky and shouldn't have won. Likewise Arsenal, I am not gonna make any excuse for my team. So my final question to you is if Jose go and spend another 100 mil this summer and end up empty handed next season would he still be the special one? I must admit Roman has been looking more and more miserable at the dire football he has been watching so I can see him pulling the trigger!!

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  • Tilla
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    Maybe Wenger would have had multiple titles if he managed Real Madrid or Chelsea where money was no object.
    Hey Dunny, a good manager is not just one who is able to work with limited resources to get average results as you have seen from Wegner over the last 9 years. Good manager recognizes what is needed and is prepared to spend what the club can afford to reach its objectives.

    Wenger may not make it at other clubs as while the clubs may place an emphasis on silverware, he wants to make Champions League and save money by not acquiring top quality players. Arsenal is the right club for him as he would not last anywhere else without winning something.

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  • Karl
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    Originally posted by Tilla View Post
    It might have been about Mourinho, but it begs the question, why focus on Mourinho two seasons without a trophy when he has a coach who has not won anything in 9 seasons. Why so focused on others while missing the thing staring you in the face?
    No Tilla, the question was focused on
    Mourinho's spending of more than £100,000,000 and for the immediate past two seasons he ends up with the dismally empty cupboard.

    * dis·mal
    [ dízməl ]

    1.depressing: depressing to the spirit or outlook
    2.hopeless: showing a lack or failure of hope
    3.of poor quality: very poor or inadequate

    *dismally
    dis·mal [diz-muhl] Show IPA


    adjective

    1. causing gloom or dejection; gloomy; dreary; cheerless; melancholy:

    2. characterized by ineptness or lack of skill, competence, effectiveness, imagination, or interest; pitiful:

    As in "Our team played a dismal **game".

    **game - Here means the entire season...as per the EPL season being the game the Premier Leagues 20 TEAMs were engaged in.

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  • Tilla
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    Cho, Ramsey aint all that and as for Ozill, he is yet to prove that he is cut out to be a success in the EPL. Walcott needs to be playing with a more ambitious club, as Arsenal at best is becoming a feeder club.

    I have actually seen games in which Chelsea sould have won, had it not been for the influence of referees with bad decisions. Players also have themselves to blame too against the lesser oppositions. Maybe you can also fault the manager for not putting enough preparation into some games that see the team losing to teams at the bottom of the table. I cannot explain how a team is ready for the big teams, but fall short against a Villa and Sunderland etc. Those teams are supposed to get a smacking similar to the 6-0 that was placed on Arsenal which is a much better team than those bottom feeders.

    Anyway, my point is this. The team missed the boat this season. I would hope that Abromavich have some patience as this was a near miss and could easily have been a success for Chelsea. I think City's success is deserving, although with the squad at their disposal, they should not have had to struggle as they did to lock up the championship. It is left to be seen if Liverpool can repeat what they did next season. Their Achilles heel was they only knew one way to play and it was all out attack. If they can overwhelm you with their attack, then you were toast. Contain their attack and they would be left without answers as how to go forward.

    Anyway, it should be interesting come next season.

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  • Karl
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    Originally posted by Dunny View Post
    Tilla - So the question is Tilla, are you happy with the quality of football Chelsea have played this season and are you happy with the return you have received on the 110 million pound spent improving the third best team in England to the third best team in England?
    Now that is a question!!!

    Tilla?

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  • Dunny
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    Originally posted by Tilla View Post
    Can you name which players 110 million was spent on under Mourinho? I know Shruller arrived with him, but was more less signed before Mourinho's deal was agreed. Then there was Willian (32 million), he sold Mata for 37 million and Debryne for $20 million. Brought in Matic (20 mil) and Sala (12). Do the arithmetic and let me know if that is 110 million spent. When you do, let me know how much Man city spent to wil the EPL?

    I think you are being unfair to Mourinho. With a little more luck on his side, he could have been on the winning side this season as well. I am happy with what the team achieved for the season, although I would have been happier with the EPL trophy.

    Dunny, the teams which are all conquering are the ones that can afford go out and get the players they want. Look at Barca, Real, Bayern, ManUre, etc. It is just the way it is and the big spenders will always continue to spend to get the best. It is not Mourinho's fault if his club gives him the tools to get the job done. I just hope they give him time to mold the side into what he wants it to be.
    I think you are being unfair to Mourinho. With a little more luck on his side, he could have been on the winning side this season as well. I am happy with what the team achieved for the season, although I would have been happier with the EPL trophy

    I don't think I am unfair at all, Mourinho is trying to make people think that he has an inferior squad to the rest when he has just as much resources as Man City. If you want to bring luck into it then I am gonna say to you if Arsenal had Ramsey, Ozil and Walcott fit all season we would've won the league.

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  • Dunny
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    Originally posted by Tilla View Post
    It might have been about Mourinho, but it begs the question, why focus on Mourinho two seasons without a trophy when he has a coach who has not won anything in 9 seasons. Why so focused on others while missing the thing staring you in the face?
    Dunny, the teams which are all conquering are the ones that can afford go out and get the players they want. Look at Barca, Real, Bayern, ManUre, etc. It is just the way it is and the big spenders will always continue to spend to get the best. It is not Mourinho's fault if his club gives him the tools to get the job done. I just hope they give him time to mold the side into what he wants it to be

    Your answer above, maybe the special one aint so special after all. Maybe Wenger would have had multiple titles if he managed Real Madrid or Chelsea where money was no object.

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  • Tilla
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    Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
    Hmmm...thought this thread was about the Special One. How Wenger drop een?
    It might have been about Mourinho, but it begs the question, why focus on Mourinho two seasons without a trophy when he has a coach who has not won anything in 9 seasons. Why so focused on others while missing the thing staring you in the face?

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  • Jangle
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    Originally posted by Tilla View Post
    Dunny, you are so biased against Chelsea and anything associated with the club that is just not funny anymore.

    OK, let us get something straight. When was the last time Arsene Wenger land a trophy? OK, he has a chance to win the FA Cup so you can talk big this season.

    When Benitez was installed as manager at Chelsea, he was as an interim manager. The club did not decide to make him a permanent manager, so they did not offer him a permanent contract. It is the club's prerogative if they decide that Rafa was not he person they want.

    Next, when you look at the tables, don't be fooled into thinking Chelsea is third best. The final table may indicate that, but hope you do not forget that the two teams who are ahead of them in the tables, Chelsea beat them in both home and away games. They also put six pass your "big club pretender" side.

    Anyway, I think Chelsea could have finished top of the league if it were not for them drawing and losing some matches in which they should have won. Had they beaten Norwich in the match last week and not have lost to Sunderland and Villa, they it would be a totally different story. But I guess the manager should take all the blame for those losses. . .

    In life there are many near misses. We should not only celebrate the victories, but the near misses as well. This season was a near miss for Mourinho and Chelsea. Look how close the league was and all three teams were in it right down to the final two games. If that is what you call failure, then, I will say you have no concept of failure. Wenger not landing a trophy in 9 seasons is failure.

    I think Chelsea will retool in the areas where the team needs it and you should see a team turning near wins into victories next season, which in the final analysis is what counts in most people's books.
    Ouch!! When you cut you cut deep eeh. Then yuh twist the knife!!! I wouldn't want to meet you in a dark alley. Ice run through yuh veins. I may have to borrow Assasin's moniker and rename you Tillassin.

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  • Tilla
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    Peter R, your team over performed this season. Plain and simple.

    and NO your team is not better than third place! If you were you would have finished higher... just saying!
    You got spanked twice by the third place side though in this season and so did the side that finished 1.

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  • Tilla
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    Can you name which players 110 million was spent on under Mourinho? I know Shruller arrived with him, but was more less signed before Mourinho's deal was agreed. Then there was Willian (32 million), he sold Mata for 37 million and Debryne for $20 million. Brought in Matic (20 mil) and Sala (12). Do the arithmetic and let me know if that is 110 million spent. When you do, let me know how much Man city spent to wil the EPL?

    I think you are being unfair to Mourinho. With a little more luck on his side, he could have been on the winning side this season as well. I am happy with what the team achieved for the season, although I would have been happier with the EPL trophy.

    Dunny, the teams which are all conquering are the ones that can afford go out and get the players they want. Look at Barca, Real, Bayern, ManUre, etc. It is just the way it is and the big spenders will always continue to spend to get the best. It is not Mourinho's fault if his club gives him the tools to get the job done. I just hope they give him time to mold the side into what he wants it to be.

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  • Mosiah
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    Hmmm...thought this thread was about the Special One. How Wenger drop een?

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  • Mosiah
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    But he beat Liverpool with master tactics so he must still be special. No?

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  • Dunny
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    Originally posted by Tilla View Post
    Dunny, you are so biased against Chelsea and anything associated with the club that is just not funny anymore.

    OK, let us get something straight. When was the last time Arsene Wenger land a trophy? OK, he has a chance to win the FA Cup so you can talk big this season.

    When Benitez was installed as manager at Chelsea, he was as an interim manager. The club did not decide to make him a permanent manager, so they did not offer him a permanent contract. It is the club's prerogative if they decide that Rafa was not he person they want.

    Next, when you look at the tables, don't be fooled into thinking Chelsea is third best. The final table may indicate that, but hope you do not forget that the two teams who are ahead of them in the tables, Chelsea beat them in both home and away games. They also put six pass your "big club pretender" side.

    Anyway, I think Chelsea could have finished top of the league if it were not for them drawing and losing some matches in which they should have won. Had they beaten Norwich in the match last week and not have lost to Sunderland and Villa, they it would be a totally different story. But I guess the manager should take all the blame for those losses. . .

    In life there are many near misses. We should not only celebrate the victories, but the near misses as well. This season was a near miss for Mourinho and Chelsea. Look how close the league was and all three teams were in it right down to the final two games. If that is what you call failure, then, I will say you have no concept of failure. Wenger not landing a trophy in 9 seasons is failure.

    I think Chelsea will retool in the areas where the team needs it and you should see a team turning near wins into victories next season, which in the final analysis is what counts in most people's books.
    Tilla you got me wrong here boss, the focus is not on Chelsea here, it is on the special one. I am just putting the point out there that he haven't been justifying the investment and has flopped big time for 2 seasons in a row after having the best collection of players at Madrid and after spending 110 million this season at Chelsea. This is not about Arsene Wenger. We know Arsene haven't won anything for 9 years, however he is not perceived as the special one and he is not spending a hundred million per year on players. So the question is Tilla, are you happy with the quality of football Chelsea have played this season and are you happy with the return you have received on the 110 million pound spent improving the third best team in England to the third best team in England?

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  • Peter R
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    Originally posted by Tilla View Post
    Dunny, you are so biased against Chelsea and anything associated with the club that is just not funny anymore.

    OK, let us get something straight. When was the last time Arsene Wenger land a trophy? OK, he has a chance to win the FA Cup so you can talk big this season.

    When Benitez was installed as manager at Chelsea, he was as an interim manager. The club did not decide to make him a permanent manager, so they did not offer him a permanent contract. It is the club's prerogative if they decide that Rafa was not he person they want.

    Next, when you look at the tables, don't be fooled into thinking Chelsea is third best. The final table may indicate that, but hope you do not forget that the two teams who are ahead of them in the tables, Chelsea beat them in both home and away games. They also put six pass your "big club pretender" side.

    Anyway, I think Chelsea could have finished top of the league if it were not for them drawing and losing some matches in which they should have won. Had they beaten Norwich in the match last week and not have lost to Sunderland and Villa, they it would be a totally different story. But I guess the manager should take all the blame for those losses. . .

    In life there are many near misses. We should not only celebrate the victories, but the near misses as well. This season was a near miss for Mourinho and Chelsea. Look how close the league was and all three teams were in it right down to the final two games.
    If that is what you call failure, then, I will say you have no concept of failure. Wenger not landing a trophy in 9 seasons is failure.

    I think Chelsea will retool in the areas where the team needs it and you should see a team turning near wins into victories next season, which in the final analysis is what counts in most people's books.
    Tilla,

    The same could have been said of Liverpool...

    The article I think keys on Mourinho and NOT the club... I don't feel sorry for Mourinho in the least, he makes too many disrespectful comments and then tries to pass them off as by the way statements... and NO your team is not better than third place! If you were you would have finished higher... just saying!

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