Underestimate the strength of the School Boy

[Muadib]

Football Mafia at your peril !

http://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/s...tem-not-answer

The force is strong in the Dark Side !

[Rockman]

Just not sure where the coveted Bridgeport team would have been conpeting,maybe they need to implement a draft system.

[Bricktop]

10-0 to di worl'...

[Don1]

10-0 to di worl'...

LOL!!!!!

[Time]

LOL!!!!!

Money, money, money....present a plan that show ISSA that they will earn more profits from a two-tier system and will consider it. ISSA is not there for football development. It is there to make money from football entertainment and 10 love is good entertainment for teenagers.

The greatest attendance last year was when four traditional high school teams (Wolmer's, JC, St G and St Jago) were playing at the same venue. The traditional high schools are the most likely to be in the top tier and the gate receipts from a larger number of such matched may lead to in an increase in revenue. Maybe someone can sell that idea to ISSA.

The big question is what will happen to the lower league. I believe that Digicel would be happy to sponsor it but who will attend those games?

[Shola]

They're 38 teams and 7 groups currently in the Manning Cup. Glancing at the tables and choosing the top 2 teams and the 6 best 3rd placed teams gives an interesting mix of both traditional and non traditional schools that would be in the hypothetical top tier if the system were to be implemented next year. This pretty much rubbishes all the claims from that article.

STGC
XLCR
JC
STATHS
KC
Denham Town
Haile Selassie
St. Catherine
Holy Trinity
Charlie Smith
Wolmer's
Camperdown
Bridgeport
St. Jago
Greater Portmore
Jonathan Grant
Waterford
Hydel
Dunoon
Calabar

[Don1]

This is backward thinking. The article is unalloyed rubbish and your thoughts are little better.

This is the situation and the problem:

* 90 day max Football competitions with 40-80+ teams!! Stupid!!
* A HUGE gulf in quality of play - teams ROUTINELY receiving 19-0 or 10-0 or 6-0 whippings. Stupid!!
* This obviously makes the "competition" a mockery and a travesty

Only an idiot doesn't see that the answer is a 2 tier system with annual promotion/demotion of teams. That's the answer EVERYWHERE ON THE PLANET.. that's sensible. However Jamaica chooses to be backward & stupid

Fortunately some more evolved folks have shown the best path forward. Wi deal wid logic & data

How to revolutionize Schoolboy Football for Century 21

A. ISSA to create two regions for school ball.... Western Region & Eastern Region..... containing comparable numbers of schools... ~50-60 per region

B. Eastern Region to consist of schools from Kingston, St Andrew, St Catherine, Portland & St Thomas....
Western Region - Clarendon, Manchester, St Ann, St Elizabeth, Westmoreland, Hanover, St James & Trelawny

(ISSA can work out any parish adjustments suh mi nuh bizniz wid nuh quibbling ova placement minutiae)

C. Eastern Region competes for Manning Cup.... Western Region - DaCosta Cup

D. Each region further subdivided into 2 groups Manning Cup Premier League & Challenge League.... same for D'Cup

E. Premier League teams (~16 each region) will be seeded according to the schools with the best results over the preceding 5 years in their competitions. Challenge League teams will consist of those outside that top 16.

F. Premier & Challenge Leagues will be entirely separate competitions. Each year the top 4 teams in the Challenge League will be promoted to Premier...and the bottom 4 Premier teams demoted

G. After 16 home or away games ... the top 4 Premier league teams go into semi-final & final round... with winner taking the Manning & D'Cup trophies respectively.
Challenge League to have 2 zones with an eventual playoff format leading to a championship game

H. Manning & D'Cup winners meet for Olivier Shield trophy as usual

I. If there's no time for additional games... the Walker/Ben Francis knockout competitions can be scrapped... if there is time ...the top 4 teams/League (8 teams total representing Challenge & Premier Leagues) in each Region compete for knockout titles


So we'll have

1. The best teams competing head to head more often for improved player development

2. Logistics/Cost Control via a more rational regional structure

3. Incentive based system for promotion/demotion

4. Preservation of an irreplaceable 100 year legacy of high school ball

[Muadib]

School boy football is a distraction..wheh unnuh tink di is NFL Football ?

Academies wi seh !

[Don1]

School boy football is a distraction..wheh unnuh tink di is NFL Football ?

Academies wi seh !

Google the concepts "mutual exclusivity" and "recreational vs developmental" then return.

Academies are a must for development...and skool ball is a must for recreation. They are NOT mutually exclusive conditions

I would definitely find things distracting if my side was picking up 12-0 or thereabouts on a regular basis doh. Mi wudda bun out dat "competition" tuh

[Muadib]

Gwaan feel suh nuh.. mi sight di rake lang time !

Don't underestimate di school bwoy mafia.. dem want di cream ah quality coming out a prep-age group !

[Don1]

Gwaan feel suh nuh.. mi sight di rake lang time !

Don't underestimate di school bwoy mafia.. dem want di cream ah quality coming out a prep-age group !

What I don't underestimate is the very powerful emotions generated by regular 10-0 whippings

[Willi]

Not true.

They want the best available on offer.

If the Academies take the best, there will still be a fight for the best of the rest. The competition itself is MORE important than the absolute quality. Bragging rights thing.

[Peter R]

As Don1 said: These goals are not mutually exclusive; academy development and school-boy football can be a healthy symbiotic relationship.

[Muadib]

Raise the level.. good school mi guh..

[Muadib]

What academy development ?