Missing links in Beckles' Haiti analysis

[Gamma]

who is it by and where can i obtain it?

[Gamma]

iman, if you look around you will realise that this is changing...there are more and more nuclear families in the black communities ..... slavery was abolished LESS than 200 years ago...10 generations....

[Jawge]

aha I guess mi too cryptic. But mi try fi run through history fi show di pint still. Di easiset way out is to say: cho dem racial and oppressive (whilst some of this may be true but not thwhole equation).

[Jawge]

There is a documentary called the history of sex. Please see it. I'm sure you will get a surprise.

[Islandman]

To his credit, thats the point Jawge has been trying to make since yesterday but its a difficult and inconvenient idea for many to accept.

[Gamma]

where did that behaviour come from?

[Jawge]

Karl yuh coming home here:it may well have been merely we being 'the BABYLON' and doing BABYLON MACHINATIONS...
Ah waan tell yuh say Garvey knew the above and gave an explanation as to why: In his speech on Civilization. I think this is one of his most serious speeches (should be read very slowly) . That speech is deep.

[Karl]

Of course! But there is no sense in constantly bellyaching about dat...Babylon will ALWAYS play dem wikkid game pon wi... wi fi learn fram dem who progress DESPITE BABYLON MACHINATIONS.

It's up to us to be smarter than them...cooperate towards one aim & one destiny.... it's in our hands...not Babylon devices like the IMF

As Adadm Clayton Powell used to say...IT'S IN OUR HANDS... strait

Agreed!
Man being who he is, if there was a role reversal and we had our hands on the controls and the 'whiteman' our slaves it may well have been merely we being 'the BABYLON' and doing BABYLON MACHINATIONS...

...the quicker we see it that if we were at the controls we would make the world our playground...to suit our aims, aspirations and wishes...sooner we move on and whatever the obstacles just climb right on over them!

In our hands, YES!
FORWARD!

[Islandman]

They are certainly related but the former did not totally shape the outcome of the latter.

The black community needs to set a higher standard for ourselves in terms of governance. It seems to me that we produce more than our fair share of great leaders of freedom and civil rights movements but find it difficult to transfer this to nation building.

[Jawge]

If they try to trade England and France would blockade them at sea; this in turn would be interpretted as an act of war by the Euros.
I think the Bristsh would welcome such a foolish move on the US's part. Boss it was about dominating and control of resources. Do you really think because the US were white the British and French woul not fire on them? leave emotion out of history.

[Islandman]

And when will that no longer be a good explanation? 50 years from now? 100 years? 1000 years?

[Islandman]

I hope I never get to the point where I believe that.

[Hortical]

So a Jamaican joe grine who has 10 baby mamas and nuh tek care of any of dem can blame the stud farm for his behavior?

[Jawge]

Harpoon is the one I would play in the 90s.

[1of1]

you don't think at that time race played a part in their decision making, all they had to do was trade
they didn't need their help millitarily did they? haiti did that on their own.