Scaly, evidence of your 21 families that run Jamaica

[Muadib]

"Carl Stone's research coincides with Thomas' argument, emphasising how these families have strengthened their position as the managers of the Jamaican political economy.

In the transition from a plantation-dominated economy in which there was an ascendant White rural planter class to a more diversified urban-centred economy there has emerged a powerful grouping of urban-based wealthy families mainly of Jewish and Arab ethnic origin...They have penetrated and dominated many areas of the Jamaican economy...Included among these are the following 15 families who are perhaps the most powerful, active, and influential families in the economic and political power domains of the country and they represent an important segment of the effective class leadership among the rich capitalists in Jamaica:

Powerful Business Families
Matalon, Ashenheim, Hendrickson, Facey, Mahfood, Issa, Hart, Henriques, Desnoes, Geddes, DeLisser, Clarke, Rousseau, Stewart, Kennedy
(Stone, 1986, 38-39)"

- Blood, Bullets & Bodies by Imani Tafari-Ama

It's not me who is speaking emotionally and in profundities. My word is grounded in fact.

I'm not just a football and tennis authority.

You still fail to indicate what your point is.. many economies were/are influenced by the few (is dem have di money.. DUH !).. not many shoot themselves in the foot by crippling the countries economy to the tune of 30% Contraction while trying to 'address' it...

Eeediats, bumbling, profound eediats with Egos the size of Jamaica use 'dynamite' to 'crash' the glass ceiling destabilizing the foundation of the building....

Twits...

[Comment]

The last line may still be true...yet there has been some 'correction' in that imbalance.

...but, Mosiah: Isn't that article from the 70s or 80s? In any case, date it nuh boss?
Thanks!

---- and, for Maudib, Lazie and the anti-PNP faction...'the commanding heights of the economy' was breached by Michael Manley's led PNP and openned to 'the ordinary Jamaican'!

The ripping asunder of that 'glass ceiling' has created a 'portal' that will never be closed.

There shall come a day when a flood of the majority class will move into those 'commanding heights' and the majority that occupy 'positions of power'...those who will then be the movers and shakers of the society will reflect the %ages of the racial complexity of the society.

FORWARD!

Aside: An appreciation of the course from which we shall never turn aside or retreat will and must be appreciated!

Once again Karl you have been exposed to be gullible. I keep telling you that the profundity and the rhetoric of the seventies that you lap up like an intellectually challenged clod, was only for the weak minded and the emotionally fragile that sociopaths love to pray on. YOU are not supposed to believe such rubbish.

I ask you again:

HOW DID “ABROGATING EVERY RIGHT THAT THERE IS” ADVANCE THE POOR BLACK PEOPLE OF JAMAICA? Is it just because, in spite of this, a megalomaniacal sociopath said he wanted to advance poor black people and you choose to believe him?


HOW DID DECIMATING THE ECONOMY ADVANCE THE ECONOMIC WELFARE OF POOR BLACK PEOPLE IN JAMAICA? Is it just because, in spite of this, a megalomaniacal sociopath said he wanted to advance poor black people and you choose to believe him?

Why won’t you or can’t you think?

As evidence of your susceptibility to beguilement you need to look no further than this thread. Mo posts some irrelevant emotive unverifiable ‘proof’ (LOL!!) about 21 families, devised by megalomaniacal sociopaths to obscure the real issues with profundity and immediately you start jumping up and down with great indignation writing drivel about 'the commanding heights of the economy' and what megalomaniacal sociopath did to breach it etc. etc. With maniacal zeal, you wax poetically in the bliss of your ignorance about coming days ‘when a flood of the majority class will move into those 'commanding heights' and the majority that occupy 'positions of power' based on the positions on policies of the PNP.

Yet you do not know, or do not want to know, or could not care less if you did know so blissful is your ignorance, that of the families named by Mo, the Matalons, the Faceys, the Geddes, the DeLissers, the Clarkes and the Kennedys were all in the seventies, when your fanciful revolution was supposed to be taking place, and are now genetically connected to the PNP. Most at some time or another held positions in government and were and are critically involved in shaping policy and have for years been doing back door deals with the PNP for their own ends at the expense of this same majority you keep talking about who until this day remain hopelessly repressed, wretched and poor. Over 100 billion dollars will be paid in interest this financial year alone you moron. Who do you think it is going to be paid to, the majority? “This government has presided over the greatest transfer of resources from the poor to the rich since slavery was abolished.” I fail to see how that fact, (and it is a fact because this government has borrowed more money and collected more taxes than all other governments since independence COMBINED) has achieved the ‘the ripping asunder of that 'glass ceiling' that you foolishly speak of.

Your heroes continue to hoodwink you Karl. Open your eyes that you might see.

[Muadib]

Wait.. yuh tink is joke.. him was lamenting about it last week.. this was in the late 80's... Middle Passage to r@55... all now him nuh unnastand dat..

ah wondah how dem did work it inna di Comp Sci curriculum ?

[Bricktop]

one breddah tell mi seh in him Statistics class dem a study Middle Passage..

[Muadib]

Wait, I recall posting some data from the World Bank and the Klan VP on the site stated, "The figures may well be true, but no black dog fi monkey fi me!"

Now any joka that can say that lacks any objectivity. I can provide data to support my argument, poppyshows round here mek up noise bout CIA and other bull5hit argument.

Maudib talk about Statistics courses being taught using the Middle Passage. I figured it out. Whats the probability that of a boat load of slaves all the idiots would end up in Jamaica? What unuh ago say when Haiti pass we? Then again, unuh nuh care bout dat!

Dat one funny no ************************ !!.. probability all the idiots end up in JA...

LOL !!! Whooeee..

But seriously.. they were not idiots when they got here.. UWI.. mi a tell yuh... check it out..

[Lazie]

Um.. you do realize your platform is 28 years of sub-standard performance.. you do realize your platform has failed.. I mean please tell me you comprehend that..

Yuh nuh serious!

[Lazie]

That is the biggest piece of foolishness this board has ever seen. How on God's good Earth can you stand behind the thought that during the JLP's regime one could 'do it by self only' as Mosiah seh, "pull yourself up by the bootstrap", but under the PNP's regime you could not do it by self but need 'the government's help'?

Nonsense! Two diametrically opposed positions! Regular poppyshow argument, by whom?

Typical 'ber 'nancy' dance!

Wait, I recall posting some data from the World Bank and the Klan VP on the site stated, "The figures may well be true, but no black dog fi monkey fi me!"

Now any joka that can say that lacks any objectivity. I can provide data to support my argument, poppyshows round here mek up noise bout CIA and other bull5hit argument.

Maudib talk about Statistics courses being taught using the Middle Passage. I figured it out. Whats the probability that of a boat load of slaves all the idiots would end up in Jamaica? What unuh ago say when Haiti pass we? Then again, unuh nuh care bout dat!

[Muadib]

That is the biggest piece of foolishness this board has ever seen. How on God's good Earth can you stand behind the thought that during the JLP's regime one could 'do it by self only' as Mosiah seh, "pull yourself up by the bootstrap", but under the PNP's regime you could not do it by self but need 'the government's help'?

Nonsense! Two diametrically opposed positions! Regular poppyshow argument, by whom?

Typical 'ber 'nancy' dance!

Um.. you do realize your platform is 28 years of sub-standard performance.. you do realize your platform has failed.. I mean please tell me you comprehend that..

[Karl]

External forces? Regular poppyshow argument! Statistical data prove that since 1972 the only time we made move forward was when the PNP was in self imposed exile. Gwaan form fool bout external forces.

That is the biggest piece of foolishness this board has ever seen. How on God's good Earth can you stand behind the thought that during the JLP's regime one could 'do it by self only' as Mosiah seh, "pull yourself up by the bootstrap", but under the PNP's regime you could not do it by self but need 'the government's help'?

Nonsense! Two diametrically opposed positions! Regular poppyshow argument, by whom?

Typical 'ber 'nancy' dance!

[Muadib]

Who cares? Why yuh giving me reasons why I am going to fail? I tune out complainers like you and continue on my path to success. When i reach the top you will still be complaining but only now I will be the antagonist in your diatribe

Mi tink UWI is the root of dis madness.. one breddah tell mi seh in him Statistics class dem a study Middle Passage..

Some forked up casualties of UWI walking around with them esoterics... no wonder Motty lick out gainst di Intellectual Ghetto.. is a breeding ground for conspiracy theorists and profundits..

Lee Kwan Yew sent his chosen people to top universtites in the US, Harvard, Standford, MIT to LEARN how it guh, we sent ours to UWI and Moscow..

Nuh wondah wi up $h1ts creek...

[Bricktop]

Who cares? Why yuh giving me reasons why I am going to fail? I tune out complainers like you and continue on my path to success. When i reach the top you will still be complaining but only now I will be the antagonist in your diatribe

[Mosiah]

How much moving and shaking can waiters and waitresses do?

[Lazie]

Oh well ... the site Chief Poppyshow has returned.

[Jawge]

my two cents: I just came back from
JA. I was staying at a hotel and overheard a political argument between employees. One said "yuh tink a juss lock dat hotel juss lock up so? wait till ... win an yuh wi see how fast it open" even dat one cross di road wha dem let off yuh tink if ... so was in power it would still a run" Now they called the owners name for the first hotel. I can tell you that prior to 1972 these peopele could not even own a patty stand on the hip strip in Mobay but such is life. I was amazed that the emplyee was unwittingly agreeing to to the sabotage of the economy. why does it take one party to be in power for you to open an hotel? can these methods be practiced in the states or any developed country? Ja is a plantocracy and it's operating on a slavery menality. It seems that blacks on a whole can't get in the business circle where the real money is made and if they do they are forced out by certain tactics. One they don't own much land (go back to the days of the maroons) hence if their business is in certain area, land owners can degrade it by selling property around it for other usage hence literally slowing and destabilising a growing prospect. It's going to be hard for descendants of slaves to get into the tourism business (because this is a known cash cow). I think a new hope is there for the descendants of slaves because of the info age. The info age is not tied to prime real estate as does tourism hence a sound education system will propel the descendants of slaves to unimaginable heights. Mo and Karl thanks for your input once in a while I get some serious reasoning around here.

[Lazie]

Karl, thanks for doing the dirty work. Not sure if this will make any difference to them. Some will always believe that there are no external forces that keep some people down, no matter what they try or do.

"Pull yourself up by the bootstrap!"

External forces? Regular poppyshow argument! Statistical data prove that since 1972 the only time we made move forward was when the PNP was in self imposed exile. Gwaan form fool bout external forces.