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  • Mosiah
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    Karl, thanks for doing the dirty work. Not sure if this will make any difference to them. Some will always believe that there are no external forces that keep some people down, no matter what they try or do.

    "Pull yourself up by the bootstrap!"

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  • Lazie
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    Originally posted by Karl View Post
    ...but, there was a cartel that kept the major blacks on the outside. It was exercised in subtle and not so subtle ways. In those days through private backroom meetings and greasing of the right palms (...yeah, even using those within the society - private and public - lapdogs/'houseslaves types')/corrupting influences - still with us today given voice in "a who im" and or "out of his place" and or must know im place", lookdown the nose posture.

    ...found right now in, for example, the cartoonist, the JLP and various persons in our society tell PM Portia in subtle and not so subtle ways that she "mus kno har place"...

    ...found right now in, the poor service received from some workers within and without public service bodies - in lock door cannot see Mr. LOck-up behind door So&So...who runs fawning out of his office when as he sees it 'real sumady cum'.

    When the members of 21 families had access to credit on nod, guesture or signature and the majority could not even get to see the loan officers....forget seeing the top managers.

    ...when members of the so-called 'elit classes' could on a nod and a wink receive government contracts and other plums within the society...and, members of the majority class could not...etc, etc.

    Massa wi on a mission!
    Nah change course!

    ...that some subvert the process by engaging in the same samfie practises...tief-in an corruption is fact! ...an di tief an samfie artist...the corrupt and even murders sometimes hide in PNP clothes...but, whether the spoilers are inside or outside - Wi nah change course!
    What dat . We really need to change our motto to ""One fool lead many!" No wonder we in deep 5hit!

    -------------Suh yuh tink hit waaas OK fi tief an tief an tief den...but, hit wrang now?

    Suh yuh tink hit waas OK if treat wi different fram 'dem man deh' den...but, hit wrang now?

    mental slavery and di ouse slave dem....??????????
    Last edited by Karl; July 6, 2007, 06:18 PM.

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  • Karl
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    Originally posted by Bricktop View Post
    So everybody nuh have di same opportunity to work dem way up and run tings? How Stewart and Hendrickson reach deh? Surely wasn't with a silver spoon in dem mouth. Stop di bellyaching and engage yuh brain.
    ...but, there was a cartel that kept the major blacks on the outside. It was exercised in subtle and not so subtle ways. In those days through private backroom meetings and greasing of the right palms (...yeah, even using those within the society - private and public - lapdogs/'houseslaves types')/corrupting influences - still with us today given voice in "a who im" and or "out of his place" and or must know im place", lookdown the nose posture.

    ...found right now in, for example, the cartoonist, the JLP and various persons in our society tell PM Portia in subtle and not so subtle ways that she "mus kno har place"...

    ...found right now in, the poor service received from some workers within and without public service bodies - in lock door cannot see Mr. LOck-up behind door So&So...who runs fawning out of his office when as he sees it 'real sumady cum'.

    When the members of 21 families had access to credit on nod, guesture or signature and the majority could not even get to see the loan officers....forget seeing the top managers.

    ...when members of the so-called 'elit classes' could on a nod and a wink receive government contracts and other plums within the society...and, members of the majority class could not...etc, etc.

    Massa wi on a mission!
    Nah change course!

    ...that some subvert the process by engaging in the same samfie practises...tief-in an corruption is fact! ...an di tief an samfie artist...the corrupt and even murders sometimes hide in PNP clothes...but, whether the spoilers are inside or outside - Wi nah change course!

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  • Bricktop
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    So everybody nuh have di same opportunity to work dem way up and run tings? How Stewart and Hendrickson reach deh? Surely wasn't with a silver spoon in dem mouth. Stop di bellyaching and engage yuh brain.

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  • Mosiah
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    "Carl Stone's research coincides with Thomas' argument, emphasising how these families have strengthened their position as the managers of the Jamaican political economy.

    In the transition from a plantation-dominated economy in which there was an ascendant White rural planter class to a more diversified urban-centred economy there has emerged a powerful grouping of urban-based wealthy families mainly of Jewish and Arab ethnic origin...They have penetrated and dominated many areas of the Jamaican economy...Included among these are the following 15 families who are perhaps the most powerful, active, and influential families in the economic and political power domains of the country and they represent an important segment of the effective class leadership among the rich capitalists in Jamaica:

    Powerful Business Families
    Matalon, Ashenheim, Hendrickson, Facey, Mahfood, Issa, Hart, Henriques, Desnoes, Geddes, DeLisser, Clarke, Rousseau, Stewart, Kennedy
    (Stone, 1986, 38-39)"

    - Blood, Bullets & Bodies by Imani Tafari-Ama

    It's not me who is speaking emotionally and in profundities. My word is grounded in fact.

    I'm not just a football and tennis authority.

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  • Tilla
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    And what about Imani Tafari-Ama's source? Is it credible or because it is in black and white it should be taken as credible?

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  • Mosiah
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    The quote is attributed to C.Y. Taylor and was made in 1988. The book "Blood Bullets and Bodies" by Imani Tafari-Ama was done last year. Good read!

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  • Mosiah
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    How many years has the USA set back Iraq? How did you come up with Manley's 30 year setback?

    Do the math yourself!

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  • Lazie
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    Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
    "Did Manley have to setback the country's development 30 years to 'remove' the glass ceiling ?"

    Did Seaga have to set back the country years to gain power in 1980?
    Setback in what way? Unuh love fling out all kinds of myths then when unuh get kornered unuh start getting emotional? Yuh need fi get yuh facts straight bossman. Then again ...

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  • Muadib
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    Originally posted by Rudi View Post
    Touche.
    Heh, heh.. is like a man ask if yuh did haffi dun di brakes just trying to prevent the car from going over the precipice...

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  • Muadib
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    Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
    "Did Manley have to setback the country's development 30 years to 'remove' the glass ceiling ?"

    Did Seaga have to set back the country years to gain power in 1980?
    How many years did Seaga set back the country and what 'set back' are you referring to ?

    I sense we are going into esoterics let me brace myself...

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  • Rudi
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    Touche.

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  • Mosiah
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    "Did Manley have to setback the country's development 30 years to 'remove' the glass ceiling ?"

    Did Seaga have to set back the country years to gain power in 1980?

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  • Muadib
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    Originally posted by Karl View Post
    The last line may still be true...yet there has been some 'correction' in that imbalance.

    ...but, Mosiah: Isn't that article from the 70s or 80s? In any case, date it nuh boss?
    Thanks!

    ---- and, for Maudib, Lazie and the anti-PNP faction...'the commanding heights of the economy' was breached by Michael Manley's led PNP and openned to 'the ordinary Jamaican'!

    The ripping asunder of that 'glass ceiling' has created a 'portal' that will never be closed.

    There shall come a day when a flood of the majority class will move into those 'commanding heights' and the majority that occupy 'positions of power'...those who will then be the movers and shakers of the society will reflect the %ages of the racial complexity of the society.

    FORWARD!

    Aside: An appreciation of the course from which we shall never turn aside or retreat will and must be appreciated!
    Why should we move at a snails pace and sometimes backward under the PNP when there is a demonstrated faster option ?

    Did Manley have to setback the country's development 30 years to 'remove' the glass ceiling ?

    The simple answer is no. But some people cannot help themselves when they get power.... it is interesting how him bow him head in 1989 and PNP claim to understand how economies work and understand how the REAL WORLD works.. yet.. 18 years later the REAL WORLD has raced ahead of us..

    The PNP have failed in their duties, failed to deliver on their promises and yet you try and find something to cheer about.. resorting to 'we on the right track, but we moving too slow'.. any fool would understand the 'right track' (some need a failed 70's policy to see it) why re-invent the wheel ?

    The essence is in the pace !!

    We are in a RACE.. winnerstake all, there is no solace in not getting lost ! It is a RACE !!

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  • Karl
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    Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
    There was evidence of continued consolidation of the society's traditional hegemonic groups, with 21 families accounting for 125 of the 219 directorships in corporations registered in Jamaica. These same families also supplied approximately 70 percent of the chairpersons of the various corporate boards. Not one of these firms was in Black hands, although Blacks made up 80 per cent of the population. Of the 219 directorships only six were held by black people and, of these, two were government appointments in joint-venture arrangements. There are also extensive foreign ownership in the major sectors of the economy, with 100 percent in mining, 75 per cent of manufacturing, 66 per cent of transport, over 50 per cent of communications, storage and tourism and 40 percent of sugar in foreign hands. The Jamaican bourgeoisie was thus economically subordinate to North American and British capital.

    Nah stop preach di truth. Try and handle it if you can.
    The last line may still be true...yet there has been some 'correction' in that imbalance.

    ...but, Mosiah: Isn't that article from the 70s or 80s? In any case, date it nuh boss?
    Thanks!

    ---- and, for Maudib, Lazie and the anti-PNP faction...'the commanding heights of the economy' was breached by Michael Manley's led PNP and openned to 'the ordinary Jamaican'!

    The ripping asunder of that 'glass ceiling' has created a 'portal' that will never be closed.

    There shall come a day when a flood of the majority class will move into those 'commanding heights' and the majority that occupy 'positions of power'...those who will then be the movers and shakers of the society will reflect the %ages of the racial complexity of the society.

    FORWARD!

    Aside: An appreciation of the course from which we shall never turn aside or retreat will and must be appreciated!

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