Big Trouble Ahead?!

[Karl]

Willi: just asking?
Is Maurice Wilson a world class coach?

Just to be an idea on why you think Franno is that much better than these guys!

[Karl]

Damn, their way or the highway??/ Which athletes did they bring to world class level? Show me their 10 athletes.

Steeeuuupss.
JAAA is not all bad, but they certainly can throw needless spanners in the works.

Bruce James needs to ban Franno from talking to the Press. He is lousy at PR!

Name the coaches?

Name who is overseeing whom?

Then we'll check past and current work with athletes!

[Willi]

You underestimate the 'charge' being a part of a team brings. That knowing that your team depends on you often produces PBs at these meets.

...and your statement on "no team drills and strategies" suggests Francis and all the other coaches left out of the Jamacia Olympic TEAM party (Yup! The coaches are a part of the TEAM) do not have access to and do not plan strategies with their charges. Such a suggestion would be false.

Any coach or any other person the athlete would like to contact or the athlete would like to be contacted by...as fact cannot be 'blocked'. In
today's world that would be impossible. ...and from a managing
standpoint for the JAAAs to go out of their way to attempt 'blocking' it would be crazy as the JAAAs would be attempting the impossible. One just do not attempt to enforce what is not enforceable! That would be madness.

The coach deals with the athlete on an individual basis. What he plans with Asafa is not applicable to BFH or even Frater in the same event.

If its just a rah-rah for Jamaica, that charge could be had by meeting up 3 days before the Olys start. You dont need to disrupt training for 2 weeks for that.

Contacting athletes by email or cell phone is not serious, Karl. The coach needs to be there to watch the drills, correct minor flaws in form, ensure they eat properly and sleep enuff. It is hands on.

Finally, Franno has Trini and Bajan charges. What is he to do with them if he is in a Jakan camp locked away? Is the JAAA flexible to allow DB and Hinds and Kim Collins in our camp (provided they pay their own way?).

This is serious professional business now. People's livelihood depend on this.

[Karl]

This is not football. There is no team drills and strategies to work on, except for baton practice.

Track is not a team sport away from relays. Is like we love to fool ourselves.

You underestimate the 'charge' being a part of a team brings. That knowing that your team depends on you often produces PBs at these meets.

...and your statement on "no team drills and strategies" suggests Francis and all the other coaches left out of the Jamacia Olympic TEAM party (Yup! The coaches are a part of the TEAM) do not have access to and do not plan strategies with their charges. Such a suggestion would be false.

Any coach or any other person the athlete would like to contact or the athlete would like to be contacted by...as fact cannot be 'blocked'. In
today's world that would be impossible. ...and from a managing
standpoint for the JAAAs to go out of their way to attempt 'blocking' it would be crazy as the JAAAs would be attempting the impossible. One just do not attempt to enforce what is not enforceable! That would be madness.

[Don1]

YOU have it backwards. The Fed is there to administer and facilitate the coaches and athletes. Athletics is now a PROFESSIONAL endeavour and we still in the mateur mold.

Mills cant be coaching his rivals at the last minute. As X says, clear conflict of interest. Apart form Mills and a lesser extent Willo, the coaching staff is DEFICIENT at the professional senior level! FACT!


To put Jam first is to ensure max performance and holding a forced camp so soon in smog-filled Beijing is the definition of DUMB!

As to the Kgn Invit, I would have boycotted too. They pay the yankee athletes and expect the Jakan athletes to run for free. WTF??? Emancipate yourself from MENTAL SLAVERY... (not you actually, but the Kgn Invit organizers).

I appreciate and respect all your points.

I know that the sport is professional... in my opinion neither side to this disagreement is being professional in their approach.. which should be what's best for the country and the athletes.

The Olympics is a time to put aside petty differences and silly egomania. I'm no expert on team management nor have any insider knowledge apart from what's in the public domain.. and no time to communicate with sources I have to acquire the inside story... or their version.
But... nor do I have any axe to grind or favored party in this matter... except Jamaica's interest.

Francis clearly should be part of the coaching brain trust at the games and have a direct input in handling his athletes down to actual race time.. why this is not so is due to lack of maturity and leadership on both sides.

[Willi]

Damn?!
His way or the highway!
Well you know what he should use the highway!

Damn, their way or the highway??/ Which athletes did they bring to world class level? Show me their 10 athletes.

Steeeuuupss.
JAAA is not all bad, but they certainly can throw needless spanners in the works.

Bruce James needs to ban Franno from talking to the Press. He is lousy at PR!

[Willi]

Cho Jangle, man...why the red herring? Why suggest the athletes annot or are being stopped from working with their coaches?

We all know the JAAAs are not preventing the athetes from "having access" to their coaches. It is not being done...and in today's world it could not be done!

btw - Have any of Franno's charges competed at a high level without him sitting there holding their hands?

Let me answer for you - a big fat YES!

They did it last year.

Paul Francis was not given accreditation in Osaka...only Stephen!

Do you understand the money at stake between Puma and Nike and Adidas over who wins the 100m races?

Now Mills does not seem corruptible, but the conflict is there! X is completely correct.

These show companies play for keeps...always up to dirty trix.

[Willi]

Prepare before the Olympics?
Well who is preparing Asafa and the MVP athletes even as we speak?

Who was preparing Asafa and the MVP athletes all these years before these Olympics?

Do you think the athletes are now in tip-top condition...or do you expect them to be working on reaching that tip-top condition?

Mental preparation?
At this stage if these professional athletes are not mentally prepared to "do their thing" they will never be for these Olympic races.

btw - You may have noticed that all the fuss has been created by Franno...who incidentally is the coach of some of our rivals. Did I hear you say,

Can I say...I am asking you...Talk sense man?!

Asafa, Bolt and Veronica and the rest of OUR athletes shall 'do their thing' and make us all proud! They all will make good money after these games...some making more than others!

Franno has just engaged in some serious self promotion... Is it of the good type? Regardless if it is or not, he has put himself and his athletes smack at the forefront of the consciousness of those who would be providing those endorsements and sponsorships and as he has vested interest in those MVP athletes he shall make what some would call "a bag"...as indeed he deserves!

The sprinters are n tapering mode now. Witness how Asafa's time dropping like stone! And the JAAA wants to farq with that???

Come on man, this is madness. They need every edge they can get, medical, nutritional, mental, psychological and physical. It may take 9.7s to win.

[Willi]

All the big countries do that EACH and EVERY OLYMPICS! Some of their excellent athletes are ALWAYS at these GAMES...termed OLYMPIC GAMES...separated from their coaches!

No they dont!
Execpt for relay practice its not normal. None threatenes to boot athletes if they arrive late.

The dysfunctional Kenyan Fed is mandating it. No wonder their people are defecting in droves.

If this grandstanding occured in the US, the 8th circuit court would be in session now delivering an injunction.

Mark my words, if any craziness happen, lawsuits will be filed in Jamaica as well!!! DQ did in 1988, any one recall that?

[Willi]

He certainly is!
...just think on it and it is easy to see that the entire group of athletes could be "put off their game"!
On this - The man is crazy!
He cares not one fig for his own athletes (He knows his antics are a distraction to them!)...and not one fig for the rest of the athletes (He knows his actions are a distraction!) ...and not one fig for Jamaica (he knows his actions shall cost us!)

If he continues like this he should be just cut loose for the greater good of all!

Man is man, is man...is man! ...even the great he has done, can and shall be surpassed by other Jamaicans!

So it is for all of us!
Time!

This is not football. There is no team drills and strategies to work on, except for baton practice.

Track is not a team sport away from relays. Is like we love to fool ourselves.

[Willi]

You have it backwards.

Jamaica is always first.. not coaches no matter how good they are. The federation represents Jamaica.. and coaches must be willing to work with that body first and of course the federation must reciprocate.

Why is it that this prima donna is the only coach to diss the program? He disrespected the entire Olympic coaching staff!!
The guy even pulled his athletes out of the Jamaica Invitational to try to flop the event.
The federation has it faults but this guy needs to curb himself or be curbed... he is not bigger than Jamaica.

If the federation is no good... kick out the leadership.. but this is the world stage... we should have no tolerance for prima donnas... I don't.

YOU have it backwards. The Fed is there to administer and facilitate the coaches and athletes. Athletics is now a PROFESSIONAL endeavour and we still in the mateur mold.

Mills cant be coaching his rivals at the last minute. As X says, clear conflict of interest. Apart form Mills and a lesser extent Willo, the coaching staff is DEFICIENT at the professional senior level! FACT!


To put Jam first is to ensure max performance and holding a forced camp so soon in smog-filled Beijing is the definition of DUMB!

As to the Kgn Invit, I would have boycotted too. They pay the yankee athletes and expect the Jakan athletes to run for free. WTF??? Emancipate yourself from MENTAL SLAVERY... (not you actually, but the Kgn Invit organizers).

[Karl]

The elite athletes who have their own personal coaches should be given access to them. Someway somehow the authorities need to work out these issues for the benefit of the country.

Cho Jangle, man...why the red herring? Why suggest the athletes annot or are being stopped from working with their coaches?

We all know the JAAAs are not preventing the athetes from "having access" to their coaches. It is not being done...and in today's world it could not be done!

btw - Have any of Franno's charges competed at a high level without him sitting there holding their hands?

Let me answer for you - a big fat YES!

[Jangle]

Besides working on our baton changes, certain maintenance works, and building a team vibes, what else will the "national" coach be doing with these athletes? The elite athletes who have their own personal coaches should be given access to them. Someway somehow the authorities need to work out these issues for the benefit of the country.

[Don1]

Nope, the program needs to work with teh coaches.

What if Mills was shut out from Bolt?

Madness!

The athletes must get access to their coaches. Last year, Paul Francis the other MVP coach was denied accreditation in Osaka. Frater and Sgherone paid their way there but were not allowed in the training area to train with their teammates and offer encouragement.

DQ is feuding with Franno. MVP had their plans set from Feb, and then DQ decided to makes conflicting plans. We are at war with each other.

What good can come of that?

You have it backwards.

Jamaica is always first.. not coaches no matter how good they are. The federation represents Jamaica.. and coaches must be willing to work with that body first and of course the federation must reciprocate.

Why is it that this prima donna is the only coach to diss the program? He disrespected the entire Olympic coaching staff!!
The guy even pulled his athletes out of the Jamaica Invitational to try to flop the event.
The federation has it faults but this guy needs to curb himself or be curbed... he is not bigger than Jamaica.

If the federation is no good... kick out the leadership.. but this is the world stage... we should have no tolerance for prima donnas... I don't.

[Sir X]

I forgive you Karl , I understand where you are coming from , I cannot forgive the JOA.JAAA though .

You are in the mindset of pre sponsorship , pre professionalism , you didnt realise that multi million dollar sponsorship is involved , you are still in the old boy network , fren fren win ball game mentally .

The americans have been doing what we now find ourselves arguing about for years , PROFESSIONALISM.

Its an amatuer organization , it boldy proclaims so ..JAAA